[PRCo] Re: 44-KNOXVILLE

Jim Holland PghPCC at pacbell.net
Sun Dec 28 04:21:36 EST 2003


Good Morning!



>> Boris Cefer wrote:

>> Some time before abandonment in 1971, the second
>> part of destination - & PA. STA. - vanished and
>> the loop was changed to Smithfield, Liberty, Wood and
>> Fort Pitt after the Pennsylvania Railroad Station
>> was closed.

>> ***What year it was?***



> Jim Holland wrote:

> Good Morning!
 
>         No One answered this question for Boris
> except Matt who hinted at it as it was possibly 
> *reopened*  in the late 1970s for emergency usage.

>         In a subsequent post Boris makes this
> observation:

> """So, the 44-KNOXVILLE cars ended to serve the PRR
> station after 1967 East lines abandonment because
> of Penn Ave track removal?"""



	First 2-URLs which are self-explanatory.


http://206.103.49.193/pitts/htm/pitt159.htm  --  1633 at P&LE
outbound displaying  *44-Knoxville_&_PA_Sta*  destination.


http://206.103.49.193/pitts/htm/pitt446.htm  --  17XX simply
displays  *44-Knoxville*   ---   (PA_Sta is missing from the
destination sign.)


	From the latter URL above Boris had written to me asking if the
PRR loop was terminated and 44-line cars looped from inbound to
outbound by making a left from Smithfield onto Liberty.    I had
thought the same for same reasons  --  the station sign being
blanked out.

	.......But, from responses, PRR-station was not closed but was
still operational.    So.......


1.>--	DID  44-line change downtown loop to
	shorter Left from Smithfield onto Liberty?

2.>--	If Yes, then When?

	Partial Answer   ---   1970.06.21 schedule lists
		Smithfield--7th as the first leaving
		time from downtown.    ALL  downtown
		stops are listed and ALL are on
		Smithfield and Wood.
	So  YES  --  appears route was shortened at
		least as early as 1970.06.21.

3.>--	If Yes, Reason for shorter route???????



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