[PRCo] Re: 44-KNOXVILLE
Jim Holland
PghPCC at pacbell.net
Sun Dec 28 04:21:36 EST 2003
Good Morning!
>> Boris Cefer wrote:
>> Some time before abandonment in 1971, the second
>> part of destination - & PA. STA. - vanished and
>> the loop was changed to Smithfield, Liberty, Wood and
>> Fort Pitt after the Pennsylvania Railroad Station
>> was closed.
>> ***What year it was?***
> Jim Holland wrote:
> Good Morning!
> No One answered this question for Boris
> except Matt who hinted at it as it was possibly
> *reopened* in the late 1970s for emergency usage.
> In a subsequent post Boris makes this
> observation:
> """So, the 44-KNOXVILLE cars ended to serve the PRR
> station after 1967 East lines abandonment because
> of Penn Ave track removal?"""
First 2-URLs which are self-explanatory.
http://206.103.49.193/pitts/htm/pitt159.htm -- 1633 at P&LE
outbound displaying *44-Knoxville_&_PA_Sta* destination.
http://206.103.49.193/pitts/htm/pitt446.htm -- 17XX simply
displays *44-Knoxville* --- (PA_Sta is missing from the
destination sign.)
From the latter URL above Boris had written to me asking if the
PRR loop was terminated and 44-line cars looped from inbound to
outbound by making a left from Smithfield onto Liberty. I had
thought the same for same reasons -- the station sign being
blanked out.
.......But, from responses, PRR-station was not closed but was
still operational. So.......
1.>-- DID 44-line change downtown loop to
shorter Left from Smithfield onto Liberty?
2.>-- If Yes, then When?
Partial Answer --- 1970.06.21 schedule lists
Smithfield--7th as the first leaving
time from downtown. ALL downtown
stops are listed and ALL are on
Smithfield and Wood.
So YES -- appears route was shortened at
least as early as 1970.06.21.
3.>-- If Yes, Reason for shorter route???????
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