[PRCo] Re: PSSST - WANNA BUY LOUSY PICTURES? - WP buses

[Edward H. Lybarger]

I believe they were indeed owned by the same family.  Fayette Coach ceased
operations in 1958; Lincoln Coach goes on today.

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Subject: [PRCo] Re: PSSST - WANNA BUY LOUSY PICTURES? - WP buses





Wasn't Fayette Coach a subsidiary of Lincoln Coach, which also included
Lincoln Lines within the family???  (Of latter two, one had a local
Westmoreland Co. PUC certificate, while other had a route into Pittsburgh.
I think Lincoln Coach had the ICC charter rights.  But all three owned by
same family.)

I don't think you'll find any reference to a "Lincoln Bus Lines" in western
Pennsylvania, Fred.

Besides Fayette Coach, I think there were three other bus companies that
took over portions of the West Penn.  (help, Harold!!)

John - (also a sufferer of senior citizen moments.)


>From: "Edward H. Lybarger" <twg at pulsenet.com>
>Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>Subject: [PRCo] Re: PSSST - WANNA BUY LOUSY PICTURES?
>Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 09:04:49 -0500
>
>
>West Penn never owned the replacement bus operations for Irwin and the main
>line.  They were owned by the companies Fred names.  West Penn withdrew its
>petition for bus replacement there before it received permission to abandon
>rail service...the company learned its lesson from the five bus routes in
>the south.  Autos were simply too much to compete with...especially with
>such jobs as were around not generally being on the transit lines any more.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
>[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of Fred
>Schneider
>Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 5:21 PM
>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>Subject: [PRCo] Re: PSSST - WANNA BUY LOUSY PICTURES?
>
>
>I'm very forgetful in my aging condition ... but didn't he  (Bill Gwynn)
>also
>take the picture at the south end of the Brownsville Juction bridge showing
>the
>alternate transportation?   While the railfans were out at the requisite
>photo
>stop on the day after fantrip in 1950, the replacement bus came along.
>One
>or
>two of the railfans actually had the presence of mind to photograph the car
>and
>a brand spankin' new GM diesel bus side-by-side.   I think Bill might have
>been
>one of them.  Maybe it meant something to him because he drove them in
>Wheeling.  Sadly there were never many pictures taken of their buses, and
>the
>bus empire lasted only until June 1953 when declining patronage ended the
>operation.  I think the mainline and the Irwin branch, which were sold to
>Fayette Coach Company and Lincoln Bus Lines lasted a few years longer ... I
>chased one of their buses southward out of Greensburg in the winter of
>1957-1958.   I took a couple of negatives of buses inside the old Uniontown
>carbarn during Memorial Day weekend in 1953 but I doubt that they (the
>negatives) even exist today.
>
>Community Transit certain prospered by West Penn's short sightedness.  It
>isn't
>every day you find a group of 30 and 42 month old buses in the used bus
>market.
>I'd wager that none of them had even piled up more than 15% of the miles
>they
>were engineered to run.  Geissenheimer could tell us how many were still
>around
>when PAT took over in 1964 because he worked there.
>
>"Edward H. Lybarger" wrote:
>
> > Bill Gwinn's negatives are largely "mapping grade," but every now and
>again
> > a relatively sharp one shows up.  Sometimes, too, he aimed the camera
>180
> > degrees from all the other fans (90 degrees in the case of the West Penn
> > crossing at McClellandtown) and got a wonderful alternate view that no
>one
> > else bothered with.
> >
> > Bill's house in Bridgeport recently disappeared...whether it collapsed
>or
> > was taken down for safety reasons, I'm not sure.  I was there after he
>died,
> > to acquire the collection for the museum.  It stank, not unlike other
>homes
>-- Trailing quotes stripped by Listar --


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