[PRCo] Re: Pittsburgh PCCs

[Jim Holland]

Good Morning!

>> mrb190+ at pitt.edu writes:

>> I don't recall
>> its being discussed on the list.

> HRBran99 at aol.com wrote:

> I remember us 'dreaming,' for about a weeks worth of email posts,
> of setting up and operating PCCs on East Carson St.

> HrB

	On Saturday, 15--March--2003, it will be exactly 3-years ago when Ray
Lattner opened the idea of the Historic route along East Carson.

	The whole thing started when I proposed a 
*Theoretical--Historic--Operation*  in Pittsburgh to elucidate
comments from John Swindler who works with govt. grants.

	At that time and on another trolleycar list, one person said that the
F-Market line here in SF is  NOT  a  1.)--Transit--Line but is
strictly  2.)--Historic.    This person went on to make other claims
including that SF-Muni did not have legal liability for operation of
the line (who would, then?) and that all transit in the US is divided
into these above two categories.

	I posed the question on line by stating that the 40-line would be
re-incarnated by importing surplus trolleycars from SF and essentially
doing in Pgh. what SF did here to see if the above claims were true or
false.    Drove John bonkers for a while until I revealed the
intent.    Of course, this claimed  Historic--Designation  as opposed
to  Transit  was complete fantasy.

	This then took off into a discussion of actually setting up an 
**Historic  TrolleyCar  Line**  in Pgh.    It started on Tuesday,
14-March-2000 and ended  *abruptly*  on Monday, 20-March-2000 when I
made the following statement, and I quote:::::::


""--""--** -- >> -->>->	I  MAKE  A  MOTION  that we informally
organize to proceed to survey the practicality of restoring on-street
trolleycar service related to downtown Pittsburgh - the route to be
established after all options are considered.--""--""


	I save 95% or better of the posts and have all this as one text file.

	You might look for it in the archives    ----   
http://lists.dementia.org/mlist/pittsburgh-railways/

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