[PRCo] Re: More Thoughts on 1600s versus 1700s

Jim Holland pghpcc at pacbell.net
Sun Mar 9 19:56:10 EST 2003


Good Morning!

>> Fred Schneider wrote:

>> I'm wondering if they weren't city 1700s rebuilt with
>> swing links (B-2 trucks) instead of the original B-2B
>> trucks.  Jim Holland noted that the trucks were rebuilt.

> Jim Holland wrote:

>         The  Rubber--Spring  might be considered 
> One-of-A-Kind  (75-cars PRCo, 50-cars TTC)  among 
> 566-other cars with Swing-Links.

	On PRCo alone.

>> And I'm wonder if, instead of actually rebuilding B-2B
>> trucks, that they didn't just scavenge B-2 trucks off
>> 1600s and 1500s being scrapped.

> .......Might be too expensive to use 15s since they
> had wheel tread brake shoes and would need to be
> converted to air-drums.

	Also, 15s had extension springs on track brakes  --  17-city cars
always had compression springs.

Assignment__For__FWS3:::::::

	Next time at PTM, please check the spare PCC trucks.    B2Bs have an
obvious cradle welded to the tube frame for holding the 
Rubber--Spring  bolster.    **-PCC The Car That Fought Back-**  
pg.128 shows 3-photos of the  *Demonstration__B2B*   ---   with clear
photo of cradle.    If there are any spares with the WAB drum
actuator, a check of the bolster mount will be revealing.

	In addition to PRCo and TTC not utilizing Super-Resilient wheels and
GE-Actuators, PRCo did Not have Extension springs on the track brake.

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