[PRCo] Re: PCC___Quiz

[Boris Cefer]

From: "Jim Holland" <PghPCC at pacbell.net>

We have first quiz here. What surprise! I'm answering what I know. You will
see what I don't know and then you can provide appropriate information.

01.>-- How many bolts in the All-Electric Track Brake?

Westinghouse??
GE??
Haven't chance to compare WAB and GE, but WAB seem to have 4 bolts. And was
there any significant difference?

02.>-- How many PRCo PCCs had fans?

1 and 100 units - 1600 and 1700s.

03.>-- How many fans on PRCo 1700s?

Five.

04.>-- What spring tension is recommended by Ohio Brass for
trolley poles with wheels and
at what wire height?

Unfortunately, haven't seen any specification yet.

05.>-- What is maximum acceleration rate of PRCo PCC?

4.75 mphps. I expect that heavier postwar cars were slower in acceleration.
About 4 mphps?

06.>-- What is Standard Service Braking Rate of
PRCo PCC?

The same as the acceleration - 4.75 mphps.

07.>-- What is Emergency Braking Rate of
PRCo PCC?

9 mphps. Or 8 mphps for postwar cars.

08.>-- Which PRCo PCCs had  *Butterfly__Windows?*

Front windows. 100, 1000s, 1100s and 1200s.

09.>-- Which PRCo PCCs had split Destination Sign Glazing?

100 and 1000s.

10.>-- What is the new number of the PCC Instruction Car?

M 11.

11.>-- List All PRCo Westinghouse PCC cars.

100, and all xx00-xx74, except for 1500s - only 1500-1549 are WE.

12.>-- Which PRCo Car Houses Never Saw GE-PCC Cars?

Charleroi, Tylerdale, Plummer St., Herron Hill, Carrick, Highland Park,
Homewood, Glenwood.
Keating, Millvale, Manchester and Ingram had GEs early (eventually both GE
and WE cars), Tunnel and Creft Ave. received used GE cars later.

13.>-- Which series PRCo PCC car was first popular for
exterior full-body advertizing???

1400s. But 100 was the very first in 1939.

14.>-- Which PRCo PCC cars had St. Louis B3 trucks?

Original equipment: 1700-1724, 1615-1619, 1645-1648; 1613 and 1614 were
experimental, but delivered with B-2s. Some early experimental B-3s were
under 1230 (have a picture of 1225 with the first experimental set of B-3s)
and 1278.

15.>-- How many rivets in the body of the standard PRCo
PCC Car?

PCC structure is welded! But there are some rivets keeping roof moldings,
bottom
of prewar side sheets and maybe anticlimbers too.

16.>-- Which is the first series of PRCo PCC to be delivered
with a different exterior paint scheme?

Do you mean the watch glass on 1700s?

17.>-- Which PCC saw the first Revenue service
in the world???

PRCo 100. I hope.

> 18.>-- Which PRCo PCCs were sent to foreign properties
to stay? Which cars to which Properties?

PRCo did not sell used PCCs. But lend 1095 to Cleveland and 1253 to
Louissville for demobstrating service. 1264 was displayed on flatcar in
Buffalo.

19.>-- What was the first modification of exterior paint
to appear during *repainting* of PCC cars?

Cream watch glass adopted from 1700s. I assume the V-front and simplified
paint scheme shy of the red roof strip were used somewhat later.

20.>-- When did the newspapers first report the purchase
of a PCC car by PRCo???

By spring 1936, but haven't seen exact date.

21.>-- On what exact date did PCC-100 start free
demonstration rides?

Do you remember the discussion on PCC_Cars group? Mentioned was the mistake
in PCC From Coast To Coast - there are incorrect dates. Seems from that the
100 started regular service in August after two weeks of demonstrating rides
starting on 12th September. Obviously nonsense. And I haven't any other
source of information, so can't answer

For how long did these rides last???

Two weeks.

> 22.>-- On what date was PCC-100 received by PRCo???

26th July 1936.

23.>-- On what date was PRCo-1000 received?

Because I haven't got any PRCo roster, must leave these questions
unanswered. Sorry. Continue by question 36.

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> 24.>-- On what date was PCC-1100 received by PRCo???
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> 25.>-- On what date was PCC-1138 received by PRCo???
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> 26.>-- On what date was PCC-1111 received by PRCo???
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> 27.>-- On what date was PCC-1234 received by PRCo???
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> 28.>-- On what date was PCC 1400 received by PRCo???
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> 29.>-- On what date was PCC 1408 received by PRCo???
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> 30.>-- On What date were PCCs 1400--1408 placed
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> 31.>-- On what date was PCC-1564 received by PRCo???
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> 32.>-- On what date was PCC-1547 received by PRCo???
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> 33.>-- What 1500-series cars were renumbered by PRCo in 1947?
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> 34.>-- On what date was PCC-1601 received by PRCo???
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> 35.>-- On what date was PCC-1600 received by PRCo???
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36.>-- On what date was PCC-1600 destroyed???

18th May 1955 - Homewood fire. Cont. 37.

On what date was PCC-1600 scrapped???


37.>-- On what date was PCC-1613 received by PRCo???

What date did this car go into service???
What date did this car go into Washigton Interurban Service???

In 1946, but don't know if the date January 14th which I remember for some
reason is correct. Cont. 48.

> 38.>-- On what date was PCC 1673 received by PRCo???
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> 39.>-- On what date was PCC 1674 received by PRCo???
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> 40.>-- On what date was PCC 1675 received by PRCo???
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> 41.>-- On what date was PCC 1676 received by PRCo???
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> 42.>-- On what date was PCC 1698 received by PRCo???
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> 43.>-- On what date was PCC 1699 received by PRCo???
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> 44.>-- On what date was PCC 1700 received by PRCo???
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> 45.>-- On what date was PCC 1701 received by PRCo???
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> 46.>-- On what date was PCC 1702 received by PRCo???
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> 47.>-- On what date was PCC 1799 received by PRCo???
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48.>-- What are the axle centers on the PRCo B3 truck???

Measures in your feet-inch systems are problem for us used to metric system.
As a result, only some measures have place in my head.
B-3 has 75", or 6' 3" wheelbase.

49.>-- What are the axle centers on the PRCo B2 truck???

72", or 6'.

50.>-- What are the axle centers on the PRCo B2B truck???

I hope that B-2B has the same wheelbase as the B-2, but haven't seen any
drawing or specification.

51.>-- What are kingpin centers on the PRCo 1700s???

22' 9".

52.>-- What are kingpin centers on the PRCo Air-Cars.

The same. Cont. 57.

> 53.>-- What is length from kingpin center to front end
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> 54.>-- What is length from kingpin center to front end
> of PRCo Air-Cars???
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> 55.>-- What is length from kingpin center to back end
> of PRCo 1700s???
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> 56.>-- What is length from kingpin center to back end
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57.>-- Which PRCo PCCs had hand brakes???

Air cars except for 1200s which had spring-applied tread brakes and the
additional hand brake wasn't needed.

58.>-- Which PRCo PCC tested the Clark B2A trucks???

1644.

59.>-- Which PRCo PCCs used the St.Louis Experimental
B3 trucks???

1230 (and 1225 as was mentioned above) and 1278 were the pioneer
experimentals. 1613 and 1614 tested different B-3s later.

60.>-- What is height of first step on PCC above rail???

15".

61.>-- Which PRCo routes Never Saw PCC service???

Would be easier to list PCC routes I remember, but have not very good
knowledge of East lines. Have already ordered the PRCo map at PTM store to
learn properly all routes!!!

62.>-- How much did the PRCo 1700s cost when new???

$28,350.00 each car. Is it correct?

63.>-- Which 100, 1000-1199  cars were fitted with
the wide anticlimber???

Originally none. But some of them (including the 100) received the full
body-width anticlimber

64.>-- How did wheel tread brakes on PRCo-1200s work???

Was mentioned somewhere above - were air-released and spring applied.

65.>-- Which series of PRCo PCCs was first with forced-
ventilation of traction motors???

1200s. Had air intake adjacent the MG set and lenghtened trolley cowl which
differed from those on 1400s, 1500s and 1600s.

66.>-- What car was painted chocolate brown???

100. Was in 1939.

How long did this paint scheme last???

9 months.

67.>-- What kind of window lift mechanism was used on
PRCo air-cars???

That with automotive-type crank. Except for the 100 which had lift sash
windows.

68.>-- Where was the Retriever placed on PRCo PCC cars???

I have chaos in the difference between retriever and catcher. But if the
retriever was used on interurbans, was mounted under the rear window to
provide easy access.

69.>-- Which PRCo PCCs sported dash lights???

1600s and 1700s. Each light contained three bulbs.


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