[PRCo] Roberta Hill's reflex camera

Bob Rathke bobrathke at comcast.net
Mon Oct 6 01:03:39 EDT 2003


I meant to refer to Roberta's 120-film reflex camera as a 2-lens type (not
an SLR).  In 1953 I dreamed of owning a Kodak or Ansco 120 reflex camera,
but by 1966 -  the last days of the North Side trolley lines - I was using
Nikon SLR equipment.

Bob 10/5/03

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Rathke" <bobrathke at comcast.net>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 11:40 PM
Subject: Roberta Hill


> I met Roberta a couple of times - although I SAW her much more often - in
> the mid-1960's. This was on PAT's North Side trolley lines lines (routes
8,
> 10, 13/14, 15 and 22) in 1965-66 before they were abandoned.  I was with
> friends and other railfans, say on the west side of the tracks, and
Roberta
> was always on the east side of the tracks.  Or we were on the east side of
> the tracks, and she was on the west side.  I talked with her a couple of
> times at Keating Car House - which didn't allow much opportunity to be on
> the east or west side of the tracks - and I remember that she had a
shoulder
> bag full of photos that she had taken on previous visits to that site.
She
> seemed to be interested in SHOWING us photos that she had taken on
previous
> visits to that area as much as she was in photographing new subjects that
> day..  She took a lot of photos, but I don't think that she was
> conscientious about recording information about them. I also remember that
> she used a 120-film single lens reflex camera (Kodak or Ansco) - it's too
> bad that she didn't have a better camera to support all of her efforts,
time
> and expense in covering the last days of PAT's North Side trolley lines.
>
> Bob 10/5/03
>
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>  ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ken & Tracie" <kjosephson at sprintmail.com>
> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 10:45 PM
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Donnell stop
>
>
> >
> >
> > Bob Rathke wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > No one ever accused Roberta Hill of writing detailed captions on her
> photos.
> >
> > Some were, some weren't. The former had car numbers, date, time,
> temperature(!),
> > motorman's name, location, build date & direction of the car. The latter
> were
> > simply date, time and car number, or just the date. But Ed returned some
> of
> > Roberta's negatives to me with corrections he made to her notes on Route
> 85. He
> > also corrected some of her mislabeling of stops and locations along the
> Drake
> > line. I did see references to "Donnell" on some Library line photos of
> hers.
> > Perhaps a forgotten nickname by locals for a bar or place of business
near
> a
> > stop? If just Roberta had made the notation, I'd write it off as an
error.
> But
> > maybe John Bromley can drop Joe a line and see if he recalls why he
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