[PRCo] Re: Reply to Holland - Route Realignments with Overbrook opening

Jim Holland PghPCC at pacbell.net
Fri Oct 10 04:04:22 EDT 2003


Good Morning!


>> Jim Holland wrote:

>> .......Additionally,  ({[pat]})  didn't want to rebuild it
>> [Overbrook]  and denied its value but a significant cut in
>> running time over the current 42/38-line should be the
>> result and will probably cause a realignment of schedule
>> Not Unlike the old PRCo system because it would be
>> more functional.

>> Mainline to both Library and SHV should be via Overbrook--
>> who would want to ride the 42/38-line to SHV except those
>> people living on that line?!

> Fred Schneider wrote:

> Interesting point....  Read down.
 
> Great point.  And that is where the people live that are
> riding to South Hills Village.   As a rule, people don't
> live downtown any more...



	Agreed.    Derrick once mentioned that he has ridden the lrv to
SHV so those in other parts of the city wouldn't want the 42/38
to SHV, but they are minimal in number to be sure.    Wonder what
the passenger count is for people specifically making the trip to
SHV on the 42/38  --  doubt it is very large.



> Seems to me that the significant reason for the line
> along Saw Mill Run is to get working people from Bethel
> Park and Upper Saint Clair into and out of the city faster.
> The 42/38 line takes people to the mall and downtown.



	SLOWLY  to downtown on the 42/38!!



> But the fly in the ointment represents those people from
> McMurray and points south who drive to South Hills Village
> to take the T downtown.   So we need to run to the mall
> both ways.



	Not necessarily.    Think it is those people who 
Kiss--n'--Ride  or  Park  at SHV to travel to Pgh. to work who
will force a schedule // routing change  --  they will probably
all transfer at Wash.Jct to a downtown Library car thru
Overbrook.

	Now we could run the 42/38 from Library inbound to Shannon and
then the 42-line and the SHV car on Overbrook, but all the
commuters from Library would  *also*  switch at Wash.Jct.

	So the only remaining option is to run both SHV and Library via
Overbrook and terminate the 42/38*A* at Castle Shannon  --  those
wanting to go to SHV would have to transfer.    Think this would
represent the least number of transfers by far of the options
listed above.


	BACK   TO   THE   FUTURE    WITH

		PRCo   ROUTING!!!!!!!



>> The fence is more to protect anyone on the trestle than
>> the cars from rocks below the trestle!

> Are people supposed to be on the trestle?    We have to
> protect trespassers now?    Caution, jumping off bridge
> may be hazardous.



	The first concern is an emergency where an lrv is stuck on the
trestle  --  the fencing presumably allows for safer pedestrian
passage.

	But in our litigious  Society(?)  a trespasser can definitely
make a tidy sum for injury!    After all, coffee cups are now
labelled that they  *may be hot and one could be burned!*   
Items from freezer to oven // microwave have warnings that  *one
could be burned taking an item out of the oven without using a
'protective' device*  --  or words to that effect.    So many
things have warnings that, if not there, would leave the company
open to liability.    I  Don't  Need  To  Tell  Anyone  Here 
About  That  --  Just  A  Reminder!!

	My brother just returned from a vacation in Spain and he
mentioned some items that are safety concerns here but not
there.    I asked how something could be a safety problem in one
place but not another.    He amended his statement to one of a
liability problem  --   people there take more personal
responsibility.


In the U.S.A. the motto is:



	'''Pass__The__*Puck*__of__Responsibility.......

	Under__NO__Circumstance__is__One__to

	Pick__Up__the__Puck__Himself!!'''



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        sometime, somehow, will turn up. 
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James B. Holland

• Holland  Electric  Railway  Operation....... 
  "O"--Scale St.-Petersburg Trams Company (SPTC)
	Trolleycars and "O"--Scale  Parts
		including Q-Car
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• Pittsburgh  Railways  Company  (PRCo),
	1930  --  1950
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