[PRCo] Re: QUESTIONS FROM HOLLAND AND MIKE

Harold Geissenheimer transitmgr2 at earthlink.net
Mon Oct 27 13:40:25 EST 2003


Greetings to all

63 Trafford Express by PRC:  How did it compare with the PRR commuter
train if you were going downtown or East Liberty.  Runningtime?  Fare?

PRR commuter trains were important from Carnegie & Crafton, from
Aspinwall, Oakmont and AV Valley, from Wilkinsburg, Edgewood
and the T Creek valley.  Was the Trafford Express really a good
alternative.?

Jitneys in New Jersey always left in front of the streetcar.  Nothing new
there  Traffoird bus had a shorter and faster route to downtown..
It also served Oakland.  Did not go to East Liberty.

When evaluating PRC service, take a look at PRR when it was infull bloom.

Harold Geissenheimer

Fred Schneider wrote:

> I've tried three times, Jim, to "reply" to your question about the
> Trafford line, and each time I push send, Microsoft goes into its
> "Crash-o-matic" mode.  I'm drying a new message instead of a reply this
> time.
>
> 1.  Route 63 Trafford Express, which operated variously by way of North
> Braddock or Ardmore Boulevard to Wilkinsburg, and then through Oakland
> to downtown, ran from 1911 to 1931.  The tale that Bob Brown told me
> that 4100s lasted until 1940 for route 63 because they needed a
> conductor in Wilkinsburg to help back the car a block, was obviously
> just a tale.  I'm assuming the route cards were correct.
>
> 2.  There was an earlier question about what barn 77/54 ran from.
> Answer is Carrick until it closed, and then over to Craft.




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