[PRCo] Re: 4398

Harold Geissenheimer transitmgr2 at earthlink.net
Thu Apr 1 18:01:34 EST 2004


Greetings to John and all
You have the right solution.  Drive less, drive a smaller
car, No SUV, car pool, make fewer tips by consolidating,
and try walking.

The answer. just dont buy or use gas.  Cut our trade deficit

Harold

John Swindler wrote:

>Yes, $2 per gallon is still cheap.  Couple days ago say a reference that to 
>adjust for inflation since 1981, gas should cost around $2.80 per gallon 
>today.
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>However, back in 1981 I was lucky to put 10,000 miles per year on a car.  
>Today it's 35,000  miles per year ----  correction:  using public transit 
>from Hershey since last Sept. will eliminate over 10,000 miles per year.   
>Another factor is that my '95 Ford Taurus gets about 30 miles per gallon, 
>rather then the 20 miles per gallon that was able to coax out of a '72 Dodge 
>Dart.  Now about those SUVs that so many suburban folks have purchased past 
>couple years that I see idling in congested rush hour traffic......
>
>Fred talks about the price of gas in Europe being so much higher.  Actually 
>the price of gasoline is about the same.  It's the government taxes that are 
>so much higher.  Wish I could remember the exact numbers, (you hear 
>something, think 'that's interesting', forget abut it, then try to remember 
>the details several years later - very frustrating) but 4-5 years ago heard 
>that OPEC oil price was about 50 cents per gallon; refining and 
>transportation was about 50 cents; and taxes about 50 cents.  However in 
>Europe, the taxes were about $3-$4 per gallon, which accounted for cost 
>difference at pump.
>
>John
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>>From: Fred Schneider <fschnei at supernet.com>
>>Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>>Subject: [PRCo] Re: 4398
>>Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 19:05:45 -0500
>>
>>Thanks.  I want to see it [Glendale] later this year.
>>
>>A tad over $2 a gallon?  Sounds cheap to me.  I've got to inquire of my 
>>friends in Europe to see how much gasoline prices have gone up over there.  
>>Germany and England were nudging past the $5 mark last summer.  I've been 
>>told it is getting close to $6 but that needs to be verified.
>>
>>Fuel here is about $1.75 for 89 octane (VW engines don't like a steady diet 
>>of 87 octane fuel)  here is Lancaster.  Seemed about the same in Washington 
>>last weekend but some of the turnpike stations were between $1.80 and 
>>$1.90.   Housing is a much bigger variable ... I suspect I could sell my 
>>place for $200K.  When you get into some of the depressed parts of western 
>>Pennsylvania, it gets much lower.  Ed told me that the smaller homes in 
>>Meadowlands go for as low as $40,000 but that they go so fast that they are 
>>never on a published list by the real estate brokers.   Restaurant meals 
>>are a lot cheaper out in the Washington area.  Ed, Janice and I went into a 
>>restaurant in his neighborhood last week ... a local place that was always 
>>good but had just changed hands ... someone coming out suggested we 
>>seriously read the menu and look at the prices before we stay and eat.  
>>During dinner we saw quite a few people come in, note that the prices had 
>>gone up, and they left.  How much!
>> was
>>it?  How expensive was it?  I had white clam sauce over pasta, with about a 
>>dozen whole clams in shells around it, a salad, and a glass of wine for $17 
>>plus tax and tip.  I thought it was economical and by eastern Pennsylvania 
>>standards, it was.
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>>rogertrolley.1 at juno.com wrote:
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>>>Hey guys. I would really like to abandon California for a cheaper place 
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>>to live. Any such place exist near PTM ???  Gas prices here are out of 
>>sight and now at $2.23 for reg. !!!!!   cheers rogertrolley      I finally 
>>got to San Pedro to see the Red Car operation there with two replica PE 500 
>>class cars and the real PE 1057 rebuilt out of a ten and nine hundred class 
>>car. Richard Fellows boatyard was next to Terminal Island where hundreds of 
>>PE cars were scrapped. He suceeded in dragging 2 hulks over to his yard and 
>>spliced them together to create the #1057, which was one number higher than 
>>the PE tens went. A great operation of only 1 3\4 miles long. Operates 
>>friday thru monday 8am to 6pm.  A great ride with a passing track in 
>>middle. Also rode the New Pasadena Gold line. A truley funky operation of a 
>>lite rail line on all kinds of right-of-way. Center of freeway ,tunnel, 
>>P-R-W, middle of a street at 20mph and numerous road crossings where 
>>several collisions and near miss!
>>es!
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>>> have ocurred with brain dead drivers, plus elevated concrete structures 
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>>and finally ending at LA UNION STA. where in order to get to downtown ,the 
>>Red Line heavy rail is taken three stations !!!!  $3 all day pass gets you 
>>anywhere you want to go. Only parking is at Pasadena end at Sierra Madre 
>>Sta. where a free parking garage is located beside the I-210.
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