[PRCo] Re: [Fwd: Re: Oakdale]

Harold Geissenheimer transitmgr2 at earthlink.net
Sat Apr 3 16:38:15 EST 2004


Greetings to all
More about the Oakdale line

The 1924 McGraw Electric Ry Directory says......

McDona;d, Pa.  West Penn.  Connects Oakdale,  Noblestown,
Sturgeon and McDonald..   Supt B J Kenney, McDonald
4.4 miles, 5' 2 1/2". 2 pass cars

Harold Geissenheimer

trams at adelphia.net wrote:

>The "carbarn" was at Noblestown.  I can show you the site.  Wasn't much of a building...maybe one car...but there was an open air elevated "pit" outside.  PTM Library has photos.
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>Ed
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>From: Harold Geissenheimer <transitmgr2 at earthlink.net>
>Date: 2004/04/02 Fri PM 06:15:22 EST
>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>Subject: [PRCo] [Fwd: Re: Oakdale]
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>Subject: 	Re: [PRCo] Oakdale
>Date: 	Thu, 01 Apr 2004 17:44:42 -0500
>From: 	Harold Geissenheimer <transitmgr2 at earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: 	transitmgr2 at earthlink.net
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>Greetings to Bob and all
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>McDonald is a boro in two counties (Wash & All).  Trafford is in
>two counties (Westmoreland & Al;l)
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>My unit was stationed at a 90mm gun site over Heidelberg. then at a Hq
>site in Moon Run (at the end of Planet Way!) (Near the Montour Bus Garage)
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>Then at a Nike missile site between the old gun site and Oakdale
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>It was from here that I adopted McDonald as a home community.
>The unit marched in Memorial Day and other parades there inluding
>Emancipation Day in September.  McDonald had a black population
>going back 100 years.  In the 1950's era there were two American
>Legion Posts there..white and back.  We were supported by both
>We did several street  recruiting displays on Saturdays and enlisted
>men from McDonald High School before nunification.
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> >From the Legion Post, we met Mr Dunlap who was supt of the Boys Home 
>there,
>Again this was in another era..for orphans, not delinquents.  His son,
>a graduate and basketball player from Villanover, joined the unit.
>I see mention of the Home Property now closed in the PG.
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>McDonald had a weekly news paper and an impressive bank
>downtown. 
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>NOW A QUESTION....WHERE WAS THE  WEST PENN CAR BARN ON
>THE LINE FROM OAKDALE.?
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>In later years, the Poskin Brothers bus and truck line operated into
>Pittsburgh until PAT take over.  They operated Beaver built buses.
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>PRR operated communter trains on the Panhandle Division thru
>Carnegie.
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>The radar site in Oakale was the location of the Pittsburgh area
>Missile Master which controlled all of the Pgh defense..  The site is
>still a reserve military base.  You can drive in..  
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>I think the radar you observed from Steubenville Pike
>was a different site.  The Oakdale Missile Master was on the
>south side of the Parkway near Rennerdale.
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>Dave Brown, President of Community Transit, came from Hickory, Pa
>in Washington county. 
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>All in all..a typical western Penna community.  I enjoyed being there.
>Quite a difference from Manhattan where I grew up!
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>Harold Geissenheimer
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>Bob Rathke wrote:
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>>I have a friend who grew up in McDonald, and he still lives there.  He
>>complains that the town is too small to warrant a namesake McDonalds
>>restaurant.
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>>He also remembers how the Army's anit-aircraft radar conrol facility in
>>Oakdale used to interfere with TV reception in the area, and every 12
>>seconds (the time that the radar antenna needed to make one revolution), a
>>beep would be heard on residents' TV sets.  People would complain, and an
>>Army officer would be dispatched to town meetings to remind everyone that
>>the radar was needed for a critical Civil Defense function.  The TV beeps
>>were not eliminated as long as the radar station operated.
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>>The Oakdale radar dome was visible from the Parkway West as you drove
>>northwest of Steubenville Pike (Route 60) heading toward the airport.
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>>Bob 3/31/04
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>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Harold Geissenheimer" <transitmgr2 at earthlink.net>
>>To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 8:48 PM
>>Subject: [PRCo] Re: 4398
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>>>Roger
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>>>If you are a veteran, there is a military base in Oakdale which can
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>>>some services.  McDonald, Pa. used to be a nice little town.  Have
>>>not been there recently.  Washington, Pa. or Canonsburg also good.
>>>Perry Coleman was feom Canonsburg
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>>>Harold Geissenheimer
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>>>trams at adelphia.net wrote:
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>>>>Just about any place in Western Pennsylvania is cheaper than California.
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>>But you get what you pay for sometimes, and that's either positive or
>>negative, depending on one's reliance upon government for services.
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>>>>Ed
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>>>>From: rogertrolley.1 at juno.com
>>>>Date: 2004/03/31 Wed PM 12:02:43 EST
>>>>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>>>>Subject: [PRCo] Re: 4398
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>>>>Hey guys. I would really like to abandon California for a cheaper place
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>>to live. Any such place exist near PTM ???  Gas prices here are out of sight
>>and now at $2.23 for reg. !!!!!   cheers rogertrolley      I finally got to
>>San Pedro to see the Red Car operation there with two replica PE 500 class
>>cars and the real PE 1057 rebuilt out of a ten and nine hundred class car.
>>Richard Fellows boatyard was next to Terminal Island where hundreds of PE
>>cars were scrapped. He suceeded in dragging 2 hulks over to his yard and
>>spliced them together to create the #1057, which was one number higher than
>>the PE tens went. A great operation of only 1 3\4 miles long. Operates
>>friday thru monday 8am to 6pm.  A great ride with a passing track in middle.
>>Also rode the New Pasadena Gold line. A truley funky operation of a lite
>>rail line on all kinds of right-of-way. Center of freeway ,tunnel, P-R-W,
>>middle of a street at 20mph and numerous road crossings where several
>>collisions and near misse!
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>>>>have ocurred with brain dead drivers, plus elevated concrete structures
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>>and finally ending at LA UNION STA. where in order to get to downtown ,the
>>Red Line heavy rail is taken three stations !!!!  $3 all day pass gets you
>>anywhere you want to go. Only parking is at Pasadena end at Sierra Madre
>>Sta. where a free parking garage is located beside the I-210.
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