[PRCo] TC Shoes Versus Streetcar Shoes

[ktjosephson at earthlink.net]

I'll run this by the folks on the trolley coach chat list and see what they
say. They have some highly experienced and knowledgeable
operators/instructors among their ranks.

K.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Fred Schneider"
To: <pittsburgh railways list
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 6:52 PM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: PTM___Red--Arrow___14


> I have two pictures showing that the trolley coach wires were not in
common with streetcar wire both on Central Avenue, Moxham, and on Main St.,
Johnstown.   Shoes may have had something to do with tracking at insulated
crossovers.  I don't know if shoes are identical on trolley coaches, but we
know the harps are vastly different (TC's use swivel harps just like trolley
cars in Britain).
>
> I have no pictures of cars in service with wheels in Johnstown after the
summer of 1951.  Horner St. conversion was November 1951 if memory serves.
There were, however, some cars scrapped in 1957 with wheels but they had
long been in dead storage at Coopersdale carbarn.  .
>
> Harold Geissenheimer wrote:
>
> > Greetings to all
> >
> > Did Johnstown start using shoes after their first ETB Line..Horner
Street?
> > Was their common wire..PCC and ETB?
> >
> > Harold
> >
> > rogertrolley  wrote:
> >
> > >It alway seemed to me a real mystery as to why PRC used wheels,when
idustrywide most all companys used shoes so as to not wear out the overhead
and to libricate it with carbon inserts. Johnstown used shoes and Pittsburgh
didn't. Back in 1958 it seemed an achronism that it was that way,whereas you
would think the big city would be far more modernistic than the small burg
like Johnstown would have been !!!  cheers rogertrolley