[PRCo] Re: US APPRECIATION

[John Bromley]

We have two held for charters - TTC doesn't want them but the politicos
won't let them sell them off.  There was supposed to be a "shed" built for
them at Russell CH to keep them away from the weather and idiots - that was
4 years ago and guess what hasn't been built yet?  They live on Track 22 at
Russell Carhouse, the furthest from any employees working there.
Neighborhood people and postal employees (big distribution station right
behind the carhouse) walk through that end of the carhouse at all hours.  We
have a minor graffiti problem in Toronto,  but not on the streetcars, at
least the paint, per se (mostly glass scratching).  How long that will last
is an unknown.   The roll signs in the cars are covered with mold.  That's
to prevent railfans from stealing them!  Any time a good sign is installed
it disappears within days, sometimes hours., once within 30 minutes.  Fred
and I had a private charter 15 months ago - one of the signs was taped so it
would stay in place, and it couldn't be changed.

On, and your color reference.  No one there knows the proper color, at least
not when they were painted.  All the rehabs in the last batch, these two
included, were more brown than red.  Perhaps you're thinking of the days
from 1972-80 when they applied the brilliant subway red enamel on the cars.
At least they got the Peter Witt right when it was restored, but then Corley
was watching over their shoulders and he wasn't going to let it be screwed
up like the PCC color.

Next week (Friday) we have another movie shoot, this one with 2424 painted
in green.  It's a temporary paint that is easily removed before they apply
the proper color and send it back to the museum.

Thus the lot of TTC's surviving PCCs.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "matt" <mrb190 at pitt.edu>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 9:54 AM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: US APPRECIATION


> Very well put.   Next to my homeland, Canada is my favorite country.  And
> the earth is but one planet, on which we should reach out to as many as we
> can, with understanding and acceptance.
>
> And now tell me...is Toronto still running any PCCs?  OK, drastic switch
> back to something closer to what the list is about.  But seriously, next
to
> Pittsburgh's bid red & cream PCCs, the closest seemed to be Toronto's.
>
> Matt
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Harold Geissenheimer" <transitmgr2 at earthlink.net>
> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 8:59 PM
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: US APPRECIATION
>
>
> > Greetings to all
> >
> > Comunications between nations is a two way street.  In the same way
> > that you mention that many Canadians dont share  on US bashings, I would
> > also add that most Americans dont agree with anti-Canadian bashing./
> >
> > We have some right wing radio shows that advocate cancelling Canadian
> > vacations and not eating Canadian bacon.  These people are just as loony
> >
> > Canada is an independent nation, not the 51st state.  We have a long
> > history of living and working together.  In wars in this century we were
> > usually together.  Our air defense was thru a joint Norad.  Our navys
> > are closely coordinated.  Canada is a full member of NATO.  Canadiians
> > are serving in peace keeping forces  with US forces.  This is true also
> > with Germany with thousands of troops on duty in Afganstan.
> >
> > Our long joint border is something to be proud of.  On the other hand,
> > Canada
> > must tighten their immigration.
> >
> > Many industries are common to both.  Autos, railroads, airlines, hotel,
> etc
> > know no border.  We buy railroad cars from a Canadian company and buses
> > from three Canadian outfits..  APTA has long been a two nation
> association..
> > Railfan groups and professional associations are common.
> >
> > Many US live in Canada and commute into Detroit or Buffalo
> >
> > Not every American supports this war.  We should not judge our friends
by
> > their feelings..  In the long run, we all need each other.  Canada,
> Germany
> > and yes even France.
> >
> > I have been visiting Canada since 1945 when as a teenager, I was invited
> to
> > to stay with Anthony Clegg (CN historian) and to meet Omer S A Lavalee,
> > CP historian.  Their diversity suggests there is room for every one.
> >
> > TTC, Montreal Metro, Calgarey/Edmonton and BC are pace setters for
> > transit on both sides of the border.  Hockey and baseball are common.
> > To the few Americans who dont undertand that we need the entire
> > world, too bad.
> >
> >
> > A good friend of mine in the Tarentum Pa Rotary club was a US enlistee
> > in the RCAF in l939..  North Atlantic subs sank both nations ships.
> > Normandy included Canadian forces.
> >
> > Americans should read the editorial and also apply it to their
> > own thinking
> >
> > I like it when both national anthems are played sideby side,
> >
> > Harold Geissenheimer
> >
> > John Bromley wrote:
> >
> > >In past months too many Canadians have taken to US bashing with about
as
> many agendas as there are bashers.
> > >These feelings generally do not match the majority of those living
here.
> There are always weirdos and idiots (including crossovers between
> categories) and frankly most Canadians are sick of them.  Generally these
> people do what they do because they like the spotlight.
> > >
> > >Anyway, a column in today's Toronto Sun should be read by Americans as
it
> is more in line with the thoughts of the majority here.
> > >
> > >And Derrick - for relevancy I believe Pittsburgh railfans to be
Americans
> (correct me if I'm wrong) - for those others reading this perhaps the
group
> forum is not the platform for continued commentary.
> > >
> > >Enjoy.
> > >
> >
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>http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/Columnists/Michael_Coren/2004/07/30/563706.ht
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