[PRCo] [Fwd: Fw: Judge Young]

[Harold Geissenheimer]

Greetings
Sgt John Turyan was one of my best National Guatrd sgts in the 1960's
A good man then and still a good man.

I have often mentioned the ethnic background of my unit.  Outstanding
soldiers.  He was of Croation descent and went on to be a high execiutive
at HJ Heinz.  Eastern Europeans  made a real contribution in Pittsburgh

Harold Geissenheimer

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Subject: 	Fw: Judge Young
Date: 	Sun, 4 Jan 2004 17:46:16 -0800
From: 	John Turyan <jturyan at earthlink.net>
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John Turyan
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Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.
 
 

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    Subject: Fw: Judge Young

     

    Remember the guy who got on a plane with a bomb built into his shoe
    and tried to light it?

    Did you know his trial is over?  Did you know he was sentenced?  Did
    you see/hear any of the judge's comments on TV/Radio? Didn't think
    so.  Everyone should hear what the judge had to say.
     
    Ruling by Judge William Young U.S. District Court
     

    Prior to sentencing, the Judge asked the defendant if he had
    anything to say. His response:  After admitting his guilt to the
    court for the record, Reid also admitted his "allegiance to Osama
    bin Laden, to Islam, and to the religion of Allah," defiantly stated
    "I think I ought not apologize for my actions," and told the court
    "I am at war with your country."

    Judge Young then delivered the statement quoted below, a stinging
    condemnation of Reid in particular and terrorists in general.
     

    January 30, 2003 United States vs. Reid.
     

    Judge Young: Mr. Richard C. Reid, hearken now to the sentence the
    Court imposes upon you.

    On counts 1, 5 and 6 the Court sentences you to life in prison in
    the custody of the United States Attorney General.

    On counts 2, 3, 4 and 7, the Court sentences you to 20 years in
    prison on each count, the sentence on each count to run consecutive
    with the other. That's 80 years.
     
    On count 8 the Court sentences you to the mandatory 30 years
    consecutive to the 80 years just imposed. The Court imposes upon you
    each of the eight counts a fine of $250,000 for the aggregate fine
    of $2 million. The Court accepts the government's recommendation
    with respect to restitution and orders restitution in the amount of
    $298.17 to Andre Bousquet and $5,784 to American Airlines. The Court
    imposes upon you the $800 special assessment. The Court imposes upon
    you five years supervised release simply because the law requires
    it. But the life sentences are real life sentences so I need go no
    further.

    This is the sentence that is provided for by our statutes. It is a
    fair and just sentence.  It is a righteous sentence.
     

    Let me explain this to you. We are not afraid of you or any of your
    terrorist co-conspirators, Mr. Reid.  We are Americans.  We have
    been through the fire before.  There is all too much war talk here.
    And I say that to everyone with the utmost respect. Here in this
    court, where we deal with individuals as individuals, and care for
    individuals as individuals. As human beings, we reach out for
    justice. You are not an enemy combatant. You are a terrorist.  You
    are not a soldier in any war.  You are a terrorist. To give you that
    reference, to call you a soldier, gives you far too much stature. 
    Whether it is the officers of government who do it or your attorney
    who does it, or that happens to be your view, you are a terrorist.
    And we do not negotiate with terrorists.  We do not treat with
    terrorists. We do not sign documents with terrorists.  We hunt them
    down one by one and bring them to justice.

    So war talk is way out of line in this court.  You are a big fellow.
    But you are not that big.  You're no warrior.  I know warriors. You
    are a terrorist. A species of criminal guilty of multiple attempted
    murders. In a very real sense, State Trooper Santiago had it right
    when you first were taken off that plane and into custody and you
    wondered where the press and where the TV crews were, and he said
    you're no big deal. You're no big deal.

    What your counsel, what your able counsel and what the equally able
    United States attorneys have grappled with and what I have as
    honestly as I know how tried to grapple with, is why you did
    something so horrific. What was it that led you here to this
    courtroom today?  I have listened respectfully to what you have to
    say.  And I ask you to search your heart and ask yourself what sort
    of unfathomable hate led you to do what you are guilty and admit you
    are guilty of doing. And I have an answer for you. It may not
    satisfy you.  But as I search this entire record, it comes as close
    to understanding as know.  It seems to me you hate the one thing
    that is most precious. You hate our freedom. Our individual
    freedom.  Our individual freedom to live as we choose, to come and
    go as we choose, to believe or not believe as we individually choose.

    Here, in this society, the very winds carry freedom.  They carry it
    everywhere from sea to shining sea.  It is because we prize
    individual freedom so much that you are here in this beautiful
    courtroom. So that everyone can see, truly see that justice is
    administered fairly, individually, and discretely. It is for
    freedom's sake that your lawyers are striving so vigorously on your
    behalf and have filed appeals, will go on in their representation of
    you before other judges.  We are about it. Because we all know that
    the way we treat you, Mr. Reid, is the measure of our own liberties.

    Make no mistake though. It is yet true that we will bare any burden;
    pay any price, to preserve our freedoms. Look around this courtroom.
    Mark it well. The world is not going to long remember what you or I
    say here. Day after tomorrow it will be forgotten.  But this,
    however, will long endure. Here in this courtroom and courtrooms all
    across America, the American people will gather to see that justice,
    individual justice, justice, not war, individual justice is in fact
    being done.

    The very President of the United States through his officers will
    have to come into courtrooms and lay out evidence on which specific
    matters can be judged, and juries of citizens will gather to sit and
    judge that evidence democratically, to mold and shape and refine our
    sense of justice. See that flag, Mr. Reid?  That's the flag of the
    United States of America. That flag will fly there long after this
    is all forgotten. That flag stands for freedom. You know it always will.

    Mr. Custody Officer.  Stand him down. Unquote.


    So, how much of this Judge's comments did we hear on our TV sets? We
    need more judges like Judge Young, but that's another subject.


    Pass this around.  The selective media are certainly not sharing
    this information. Everyone should and needs to hear what this fine
    judge had to say. Powerful words that strike home