[PRCo] Re: PRR Pittsburgh station

[Edward H. Lybarger]

Routes 7 and 44 both did the Liberty-12th Street-Penn-11th Street loop until
the late '60s/early 70s, in the case of 44.  7 went away long before, of
course.  I seem to recall that 44 used Smithfield-above described
loop-Grant, while 49 used Grant-Liberty-Wood.  But I'm not a timetable
collector and don't have this info at home...would have to check at library
for actual facts.

-----Original Message-----
From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of John
Swindler
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 8:43 AM
To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
Subject: [PRCo] Re: PRR Pittsburgh station



Didn't route 7, and another north side route, and two south side routes
terminate at PRR station in earlier days??  44 via PRR may have been a
remnant of this service, looping via 11th St. with advent of single end
cars.

Vague recollection from digital on-line book from 1920s.

Recently saw some PRC slides from late 1960s, and there were some views of
49 Beltzhoover cars on 11th street loop around 1970.  And some 44 cars had
"via PRR station" blacked out.  Was there a switch of of 44 and 49 downtown
routings in late 1960s??

John



>From: Joshua Dunfield <Joshua_Dunfield at mlist-0.sp.cs.cmu.edu>
>Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>Subject: [PRCo] Re: PRR Pittsburgh station Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 15:20:44
>-0400
>
>Bob Rathke wrote:
>...
> > By 1956, the tracks on the north side of the station (Pittsburgh to
> > Cleveland and Chicago) and at least two of the eastbound  tracks to
> > Philadelpia and New York - were reached via an undeground waiting room
>(at
> > the level of Libery Avenue).  This was done to eliminate the need for
> > passengers to cross the tracks in order to reach their trains.
>Escalators
> > ran from the concourse to the underground wiating room, and then up -
> > through several escalators - to the platforms for tracks 1-6.
>
>Thanks; just what I was looking for.  Is the present track numbering the
>same as in 1956 (for the tracks that still exist)?
>
>Also, in the Pitt collection (referred to by John Swindler) the 1923 map
>shows a tunnel east of the train shed (between 13th and 14th if you were
>to extend them past Liberty):
>
>http://digital.library.pitt.edu/cgi-bin/maps/showmap.pl?client=maps&image=2
3v0105b&levels=5&originx=0&originy=4520&lastlevel=2&fullheight=6864&fullwidt
h=5430&level=2&size=2&image.x=14&image.y=474
>
>(It's on Plate 5b if the long URL doesn't work.)
>
>Is the tunnel still there?
>
>(On topic!)  There appears to be a trolley spur going off Liberty
>right up alongside a PRR spur, next to stairs leading up into the
>station:
>
>http://digital.library.pitt.edu/cgi-bin/maps/showmap.pl?client=maps&image=2
3v0105a&levels=5&originx=1584&originy=4848&lastlevel=2&fullheight=6864&fullw
idth=5430&level=2&size=1&image.x=784&image.y=367
>
>(1923, Plate 5a.)
>
>...
> > I took numerous photos in the PRR station from 1954-1991, and I will be
> > happy to give the website addresses to anyone who is interested.
> >
> > Bob 7/17/04
>
>I would certainly be interested.
>
>-j.
>

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