[PRCo] Re: Pathetic!!!!!!!

[Edward H. Lybarger]

For those of you who may be timetable collectors (or who sell to them):
That June 6 TT is likely to be a unique issue and may be quite rare in the
grand scheme of things.  So get 'em while they're hot!

Ed

-----Original Message-----
From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of Mark
McGuire
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 4:11 PM
To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Pathetic!!!!!!!



   When we explored Overbrook in June, we noticed the speed limit
signs of 30 MPH. A motorman explained to us that this is rather slow
and that once the old LRVs are sent to rehab and the new LRVs and
rehabbed LRVs are back, they will be able to go 50MPH.
  I'm sure there will be a tremendous difference once this company
in Spain(can't remember the name off hand) gets their duffs in gear
and the unrehabbed LRVs are all gone. Can't have a new car going 50
when a slower older car is doing 30.
  I was going to send you a schedule, but seems you already have one.
These were very hard to come by. The new cars did not even have
slots to keep schedules(timetables) in. This schedule will only be
in effect a short time. The 42S line will eventually become 47S,
also running through Overbrook. I have heard that September the changes
will be in effect. The 42 line will then only run to Castle Shannon, and be
referred to as 42C. Just like the old days!
   I have a couple extra 42S and 47L timetables dated 6/6/2004.
If anyone that lives outside of Pittsburgh is interested, I'll be
happy to mail you one.

                        Mark

-- "James B. Holland" <PRCoPCC at P-R-Co.com> wrote:
Hi Gang!


Sitting in front of me is a schedule for 42S South Hills Village (SHV)
and  47L Library Via Overbrook dated 2004.06.06.

The 47 Library lrv now uses its original but upgraded route along
Route_88 and Saw Mill Run.       It is important to note that the
5-sections of single track and four passing sidings are totally
eliminated and the route is completely double track.       And Most of
the Car Stops through this section have been eliminated, the route
realigned for greater speed, and a grade crossing was eliminated as well.

The first 7 inbound trains from Simmons in Library, 4.39-AM through and
including 5.39-AM take  **41-minutes**  for the One-Way trip Monday
through Friday.       From 5.45-AM through and including 1.01-PM the
running time inbound is  **47-minutes.**       And from 1.27-PM through
and including the last inbound trip at 11.37-PM, all trips are scheduled
for  **41-minutes.**

The first 5 outbound trips from downtown to Library weekdays, 5.03-AM
through and including 6.20-AM, the running time is  **40-minutes.**
      From 6.32-AM through and including 7.48-PM, the running time
outbound is  **44-minutes.**       And from 8.08-PM through and
including the last complete outbound trip at 12.18-AM the running time
again is  **40-minutes.**


The running time for the PCCs on 1957.10.14 was about  **44-
45-minutes**  each way while the standard running time in 1964 was
**41-minutes each way.**       Note that rush hour times would be longer.

Also interesting to note that travel time from South Hills Junction
(SHJ) for present day lrvs is  **10-minutes-Inbound**  and
**9--minutes-Outbound.**       PCC travel times in 1964 were
**11-minutes**  each way between SHJ and Grant/Liberty.       AND   PCCs
traveled the tunnel which carried 8-TrolleyCar lines, and Smithfield
Bridge which carried 10-TrolleyCar Lines and then shared city streets
with all kinds of vehicle traffic and 4-TrolleyCar lines inbound on
Grand and 5-TrolleyCar lines outbound Liberty and Wood.

Seems the PCCs did One Fantastic Job and the lrvs cannot even begin to
compete even with a tremendous reduction in stops, realignment of route,
elimination of single track and passing sidings, and elimination of a
grade crossing!


Jim__Holland