[PRCo] Re: Forbes Ave exposed track

[Edward H. Lybarger]

I think some of the lines on the maps are sewers.  The "dots" may equal
manholes.  I need to get into a huge amount of material (Snow Report) to try
and find if there's anything on this, but have no time for a while.  I'll
add it to the "things to look at" pile, but there are no promises!

Ed

-----Original Message-----
From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of John
Swindler
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 9:08 AM
To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Forbes Ave exposed track




This 1923 map shows track on Woodlawn, but no track connection at Forbes.
pity

http://digital.library.pitt.edu/cgi-bin/maps/showmap.pl?client=maps&image=23
v0213b



This 1904 map shows an outbound connection at Forbes/Woodlawn, but does not
give track detail.

http://digital.library.pitt.edu/cgi-bin/maps/showmap.pl?client=maps&image=04
v01p31


On this 1886 map, look at Fralich (later Woodlawn, then Morrison) and
Joncaire which drops down to cross B&O and continues into Boquet to Forbes.
Wasn't this the original streetcar route prior to Forbes St. bridge at
Neville St.?

This map also indicates that a low-grade route to Squirrel Hill would follow
stream through Murdoch property to reach Murray Ave., rather then follow
Forbes.  And somewhere I saw a map that indicated that the first trolley
route to East End did this.  Or at least was planned to do this.

http://digital.library.pitt.edu/cgi-bin/maps/showmap.pl?client=maps&image=86
v01p32

This is where I need help from Ed

John




>From: Joshua Dunfield <Joshua_Dunfield at mlist-0.sp.cs.cmu.edu>
>Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>Subject: [PRCo] Re: Forbes Ave exposed track Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004
>23:59:31 -0400
>
> > Forbes at Margaret Morrison.  Wasn't Margaret Morrison formerly called
> > "Woodbine" or "Wood-something-or-other?"    Those of you who have the
> > PRMA map handy from 1959 can confirm.
>
>Woodlawn.  There's a CMU dorm that's still called "Woodlawn Apartments".
>
> >   And so, that is area where the
> > former tracks of what once ran through Schenley Park from Bouquet &
> > Forbes to Boundary to Joncaire to what is now called Margaret Morrison
> > ran.   I believe that the Margaret Morrison tracks alone were kept open
> > for a short time after the abandonment of the rest of the Schenley Park
> > route.  Can't recall for sure, but I doubt if the track connections from
> > Forbes to Margaret Morrison were even slightly evident in 1967 when the
> > East End abandonments occured.
>
>As I recall, the Pitt digital library maps (and Carnegie Tech bulletin
>campus maps from the 1920s) show a number of different street/track
>configurations...they liked renaming streets.
>
>I have photocopies of some of the bulletin maps -- and excerpts
>discussing the on-campus facilities, which included a "mine with
>trolley wire" under what is now Doherty Hall.  (No details about the
>trolley wire, I'm afraid.)  I'll try to remember to scan them in when
>I get back to Pittsburgh.
>
>-j.
>

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