[PRCo] Re: Location?

Fred Schneider fschnei at supernet.com
Mon Mar 1 07:36:48 EST 2004


I know what East Liberty Presbyterian is like.  I was a member there for 9 years.

Harold Geissenheimer wrote:

> Greetings
> The East Liberty Presby church at Penn & Highland is beautiful also.
> Why go to Paris to see colored glass.  Join the Mellon family at
> East Liberty.  Of course East Liberty is no longer safe for white
> people.
>
> In Baltimore, Rev Ed Schell's old church is downtown.  Must be
> unsafe.  Best stay in the safe suburbs Fred.
>
> Harold Geissenheimer
>
> Harold Geissenheimer
>
> Fred Schneider wrote:
>
> >Harold is right about St. Denis outside Paris.  It has a McDonalds with a
> >bouncer at 15:00 hours.   St. Denis also has the most gorgeous gothic basillica
> >I've ever been in ... light, airy, colored light from the windows dancing on the
> >floor, and it has all the graves from the former French kings and queens some
> >buried with heads ......  and some without.     And there are Muslim street
> >markets in Paris where you don't want to brandish a camera ... but I never got
> >really bad vibes that I was going to be shot just for being there.
> >
> >Oh, Harold, you remember the Gayiety burlesque on East Baltimore Street.  I
> >visited it one evening with my first wife and two friends.  The next day my Dad
> >asked how I liked the show.  I told him I wasn't impressed.  His response was,
> >"Why didn't you ask first.  I could have told you it wasn't a good show."  He
> >haunted that burlesque theater about every other Saturday.Harold Geissenheimer
> >wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>Boris
> >>I do not always agree with Fred..  There are bad neighborhoods in any
> >>city world wide.
> >>Bad places in Paris, London, Berlin, Rio, Buenos Aires, Miami, New
> >>Orleans. Chicago.
> >>San Francisco, Philadelphoa, Washingt0on, DC etc,
> >>
> >>In daylight you should be able to go on any main Pgh street and most of
> >>them at night.
> >>You dont want to display cameras in some neighborhoods or hang out at a
> >>bad corner.
> >>Its all common sense,  The first new Paris tramway (St Denis) is in a
> >>bad moslim neigjborhood
> >>and some Metro stations are sensative.  Same in London or Berlin
> >>
> >>
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> >
> >
> >>In Pittsburgh as in many cities, housing projects could be bad at
> >>night.  Also Braddock,
> >>Rankin.  Poverty  and race is the problem.  North Philadelphia,
> >>southside of Chicago
> >>southwest LA.  Pittsburgh is better than others
> >>
> >>You should be able to follow Eta, Millvale and other North side routes,
> >>Some problems
> >>on lower Perrysville Ave and in projects.  West End no problem.  South
> >>Hills South Side except
> >>for projects.  Even Warrington Ave is OK..  No problems on existing LRT
> >>
> >>Pockets in East End and East Liberty.  In most cases you could  ride PAT
> >>buses.
> >>
> >>My mother lived with me until she died in 1988 at the age of 88.  She
> >>rode the bus
> >>in Pgh (yes 82 Lincoln) from Shadyside to downtown thru the Hill
> >>District until
> >>1976.  She rode north side Chicago buses 1976-1982 and Munii 1982-85.
> >>Daylight of course in bad neighborhoods.
> >>
> >>I remember going with fellow soldiers into East Baltimore and being
> >>advised that
> >>the dock areas could be tough.  Yes, Fred I went to the Burlesque on
> >>East Baltimore
> >>Street.
> >>
> >>Pittsburgh is not an unsafe place.  Come and enjoy a nice city.  Fred
> >>can stay home.
> >>I drove in several of these neighborhoods just last October.
> >>
> >>Harold Geissenheimer
> >>
> >>Boris Cefer wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>So we shall not make a night trip over abandoned Pittsburgh trolley lines.
> >>>Is it really so bad?
> >>>
> >>>B.
> >>>
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: "Fred Schneider" <fschnei at supernet.com>
> >>>To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> >>>Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 5:45 PM
> >>>Subject: [PRCo] Re: Location?
> >>>
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> >>>>Remember now, Mark, there are some neighborhoods that you really don't
> >>>>
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> >>>want
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> >>>>to enter without the 82nd Airborne Division in your car for protection.  A
> >>>>lot of places that I used to be taken as a boy that were quite OK then but
> >>>>are not today ... Braddock, Rankin, North Braddock, Wilkinsburg, Homewood,
> >>>>Brushton, parts of East Liberty, even parts of the North Side.  Basically,
> >>>>follow the Pennsylvania Railroad to the east ... those were the older and
> >>>>now decaying neighborhoods.
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