[PRCo] Re: #1727 Accident
Harold Geissenheimer
transitmgr2 at earthlink.net
Wed May 12 12:02:34 EDT 2004
Greetings
There was an uphill derail on Fineview to restrain a car drifting back
down the hill.
Did the S Hills Jct derails also serve to prevent cars entering the
tunnel from one track sidewiping a car entering on another track?
Harold Geissenheimer
John Swindler wrote:
>Yes, different circumstances at low speeds, but same results at high speeds.
> In the earlier case, the operator's actions seem to have caused the
>accident. In the 1987 case, the operators inaction seem to have caused the
>accident.
>
>I have the news clippings from the circa 1917 accident, but wasn't there an
>earlier tunnel run-away?
>
>Jim, you mentioned couple years ago that you had a map that indicated a
>number of derails on PRC. Wonder if this was to make the operator make a
>safety stop before entering a severe downgrade?? Or were the derails part
>way down the hill??
>
>>From the Pittsburgh Dispatch, the number of run-away cars circa 1902-1905
>was rather gruesome. Quickly explains steel cars and air brakes. And
>perhaps also derails.
>
>John
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>>From: "James B. Holland" <PRCoPCC at P-R-Co.com>
>>Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>>Subject: [PRCo] Re: #1727 Accident
>>Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 13:34:59 -0700
>>
>>John Swindler wrote:
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>>>Guess we don't want to mention the removal of the necessary action safety
>>>switches at the south end of the tunnel. Installed by Pittsburgh
>>>
>>>
>>Railways
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>>>after previous 'rocket sled' experience on 6% tunnel downgrade circa
>>>
>>>
>>1917.
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>>>(low floor car on rt. 48 (?))
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Far different circumstances -- wasn't the low-floor
>>already into the tunnel, trolley dewired, jam packed car, motorman angry
>>because he had to get out to replace trolley when this is the
>>conductor's job but conductor jammed into crowd and unable to move.
>>So motorman gets back in and takes out his anger on the controls and
>>winds it up.
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