[PRCo] Re: Concord (without the E!)

[James B. Holland]

On 25 May 2004 at 13:19, James B. Holland wrote:

>>             Was just looking at the PRMA and ERA maps  --  hadn't 
>>checked the topo or I would have been aware of the exact routing  --  
>>and do not have this particular topo  --  at least not where I can put 
>>my fingers on it.
>>

Donald Galt wrote:

>>Oh, sorry. But now you have looked at it, right, so I still don't have to send 
>>you a scan.
>>
>>Sheet 24. I suppose you never got it.
>>

             Will look again  --  sometimes possible to be looking right 
at it and never see it!!      The URL at the end of the email you sent 
revealed the map  --  Thank You!     (((And it would also do the same 
for John since he is on the list as well!!)))

>>                Now, how was it used?     The connection is via outbound 
>>North.     But the turn from Concord onto Madison overshoots the track 
>>on Madison giving the appearance that an Inbound car from Concord could 
>>wait for an outbound Madison bound car to pass  --  OR  the wide over 
>>swing was necessary for clearance on the narrow streets.
>>    
>>
>
>A fascinating question, that I have wondered about since first noting the 
>intriguing trackwork years ago. Probably the latter solution is the better - 
>there may not be sufficient clearance for two cars to pass. Plus, unless there 
>is a crossover obscured by the word "North" there is no connection with the 
>westbound North Avenue tracks. Plus, two blocks is a long way for a car to 
>travel against all the traffic bound for East Street.
>
>Of course it's not a PRCo map, so the presence of rails isn't a promise that 
>they were in use in 1928.
>
>Don
>

             It seems to me, from discussions in the past, that trackage 
on the topo quite accurately reflected that by PRCo.     But of course 
it could have been in place but out of use.

             But one could imagine that it was used at some time  --  
maybe just a more direct connection to North Side and then downtown.

             Looking at the  3--Digit route summary from Arnold's 1910 
report  (we have discussed this report before, but not this particular 
aspect)  shows the following of interest:::::::

101       Spring Garden
102.5      Pgh and Butler
104      High Bridge???????
108      East Street and Madison Avenue
111      Troy Hill
111.5      Troy Hill via North Avenue and East Street!!!!!!!

--**>      123   Spring Hill Transfer   <**--

125      Nunnery Hill
126      Pgh. Harmony Butler New Castle.


             NOT  all of the routes are listed above  --  just those 
that seem a little more interesting.     How do we interpret #123??     
Cars were scheduled every 20-minutes mid-day, 10-minutes in rush hours, 
and they used shorties  --  19'3".

             We had some trouble interpreting this chart before:::::::

             """No. Cars on Scheduled"""  is a column and 6-cars for 123 
of 2.22-miles seems logical.

             But 4-cars for 314-Bon Air and only 0.7-miles doesn't smut 
the custard!!!!!!!

             Or 6-cars for 110--Charles St. Transfer and only 0.66-miles 
makes even less sense!!!!!!!

             Lettuce keep up the speculation and give John_W.S. a run 
for his money tomorrow!!!!!!!


JIM