[PRCo] Re: PCC Rehabilitation

[James B. Holland]

ktjosephson at earthlink.net wrote:

>James B. Holland wrote:
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>>             You want to see junky  Totally  Neglected  PCCs  then look
>>to San Francisco in the late 1960s to 1982 when PCC service ended.
>>*The__People's__Railway*  pg.204 and I quote:::::::       """Not until
>>1980 was there even the beginning of an effort by Muni management to
>>institute a rational, comprehensive preventive maintenance
>>program."""
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>I don't doubt this at all, Jim. But somebody either fooled Harre Demoro or
>he was in denial, because he made it a point to refer to San Francisco's
>PCCs as "well maintained." This was in an article where he criticized the
>appearance of Pittsburgh's remaining PCCs during a March, 1969 visit. He did
>indicate that Pittsburgh's PCCs seemed to be well maintained mechanically.
>

             """I don't doubt this at all, Jim. But......."""       
Hmmmmmmmmm!!

             The people who wrote  *People's__Railway*   Are  Muni   
Insiders!     Interesting that a companion book is called  
*Inside__Muni*  by a couple of the same authors!!!!!!! :-)       
Complete Breakdowns Of  PCCs Was  THE  order  of  the  day  in  San  
Francisco  --  Service Was The Exception    ----    thought I made that 
rather plain in the examples that I gave. :-(     I really don't have 
the time to list every single one  --  I have notes on many of the 
experiences here in San Francisco  --  it was an incredible mess.     
And I shall Emphastically State that an extremely good case of  
*Criminal__Neglect*  could be made against SF-Muni of 1970--1982. :'( 
    Go Back And Read That Book which details the decrepit and unreliable 
condition of the PCCs.

             Not uncommon for  Any  Of  Us  to be biased toward our 
favorite system and good old' Harre liked San Francisco and I Like Ike 
:-) And Pittsburgh.      Harre was not a liked person  By  Many  around 
San Francisco. :-(      But Harre is comparing the SF cars to  
({[pat]})  cars of 1969  --  NOT  PRCo  --  and after  ({[pat]})  
takeover, maintenance was non-existant until about 1971!!!!!!!      It  
Is  Necessary  To  Remember  That  We  ARE  making a definite 
distinction between  PRCo  and  ({[pat]})  which  is  Often  Very  Much  
Blurred  here on this list.

             Also forgot to mention in the previous post  --  I probably 
experienced 12-dewirements or not many more in all my time in Pgh.  --  
Saw That Many Each Day here in San Francisco Just On TrolleyCars, not 
including Trolley Coaches!!     And a wheel is prone to dewiring more 
easily than a shoe.


JIM