[PRCo] Re: Run numbers

[John Swindler]

>Fred Schneider asked:
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>Now lets carry this to some sort of a logical conclusion.  Pretend I'm a 
>supervisor on the street.  And the car due at Penn and Highland inbound on 
>88 at 15:13 is 12 minutes late.  Am I concerned with the block number 
>because it may relate to a schedule?  Am I looking for car 1202 on route 88 
>or am I looking for block 03 on route 88?


Why would the supervisor know that he would be looking for car 1202???   All 
he knows is that block 03 is due at 15:01


Or am I concerned more with the run number in order to get the man back 
where he belongs for his lunch break?  Or do I need to work with both 
because Pittsburgh insisted on having two separate numbers?
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>If we have a car at Keating that is suddenly pressed into service with an 
>extra list man outbound on 10 because of an accident at Perrysville and 
>East that tied up a scheduled car, what block number does it get?  
>Something after the last normal block of the day?  Or the next block that 
>has not gone out?
>


Maybe it gets "XX"  I don't know.  But that would be an example of a "put on 
time" car.


>Do you know of situations where the car assigned to Block 1 today became 
>the same car on Block 1 tomorrow because it became an owl car?
>


Don't know about Pittsburgh, but in Chicago, buses would be rotated into 
garage during day.  Owl buses would "come home" after the rush hour.  The 
general rule is that you want each operator to work at least one rush hour 
trip.

John


>I know, John,
>
>I'm picking nits here.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: John Swindler <j_swindler at hotmail.com>
>Sent: Aug 6, 2005 7:11 AM
>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>Subject: [PRCo] Re: Run numbers
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>I recall it being referred to as a "block number".  It was a sequential
>number for cars assigned to a route - usually based on the order in which
>car left the barn. (first car out was block  1  second car out was block  
>2)
>    So the 'block number' should stay the same while the vehicle was on the
>street.
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>The operator had his own 'run number' which referred to his pieces of work.
>Usually two pieces of work were put together to form an operator's run, 
>with
>the goal being to minimize premium pay.  That is, make the operator's run 
>as
>close to eight hours as possible.
>
>In Chicago, the numbers displayed in the front window were not the 
>vehicle's
>"block number", but the operator's "run number".   Thus when making a 
>street
>relief, we had to know the operator's run number that we were relieving, 
>and
>we had the remember to change the number whenever we made a street relief.
>This wasn't necessary in Pittsburgh (unless it was a 'put on time' car).
>
>Hope this makes some sense - without going into too much detail
>
>John
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> >From: "Boris Cefer" <westinghouse at iol.cz>
> >Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> >To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> >Subject: [PRCo] Re: Run numbers
> >Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2005 12:56:44 +0200
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> >That in lower right side of front window on air cars, above the window on
> >1700s.
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> >B
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> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "John Swindler" <j_swindler at hotmail.com>
> >To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> >Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 12:40 PM
> >Subject: [PRCo] Re: Run numbers
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> > > Do you mean the operator's run number, or the vehicle run -  or block
> >number
> > > displayed in lower right side of front window???
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> > > In Pittsburgh there was a difference.  In Chicago,there wasn't.
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> > > John
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> > > >From: "Boris Cefer" <westinghouse at iol.cz>
> > > >Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> > > >To: "PRC" <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> > > >Subject: [PRCo] Run numbers
> > > >Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2005 10:41:10 +0200
> > > >
> > > >What was the PRCo's system of run numbers? Did each route have its 
>own
> > > >route numbers starting with 1, or were all service cars assigned to a
> > > >particular carhouse numbered together?
> > > >Boris
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