[PRCo] Re: Station square

[Harold G.]

Greetings  and happy new year.   Paved for
street car reasons, not for autos.  It gave a good
trolley ride, was easy to maintain and clean,
and looked better than ballast and ties.

This was really a PRC innovation!

I liked it.  I lived two blocks away on Glenmore.

They had some on Fineview and in the SHills yard.

Harold Geissenheimer
-----Original Message---
From: Edward H. Lybarger <trams at adelphia.net>
To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Date: Saturday, January 01, 2005 2:39 PM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Station square


>I believe the ultimate objective was tie longevity, leading to lower
>maintenance costs, plus, of course, a very stable riding surface as a
bonus.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
>[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of Bill
>Robb
>Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 2:20 PM
>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>Subject: [PRCo] Re: Station square
>
>
>Any idea why PRC paved the 42 Dormont PRW to just over
>the top of the ties, but not flush with the top of the
>rail?  Concrete is an expensive method of paving.
>
>Bill Robb
>
>
>--- "Harold G." <transitmgr2 at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> Happy New Year to Derrick and all
>>
>> I only know about putting asphalt on top of
>> abandoned
>> tracks.  Didthey ever put concrete over it?  Penn
>> Ave
>> downtown and the others I mentioned had removed the
>> abandoned rails.
>>
>> PRC used concrete on PRW on 42 Dormont with the
>> rail sticking up a little.  I liked that.
>>
>> Harold Geissenheimer
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Derrick J Brashear <shadow at dementia.org>
>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>> <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>> Date: Friday, December 31, 2004 10:37 PM
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Station square
>>
>>
>> >On Thu, 30 Dec 2004, Harold G. wrote:
>> >
>> >> Greetings to all/
>> >>
>> >> Two points.   City of Pgh DPW in the 1960's
>> >> was sold on concrete paved streets.  See Penn
>> >> ave downtown, 7trh street, streets around A Ctr
>> and
>> >> E Lib mall, etc.  I liked them.  made every thing
>> >> look clean.  Thats why 2dAve was in coincrete.
>> >
>> >Billboards along the PA Turnpike be damned, if you
>> want it to last, you
>> >pour concrete, on a proper subbase. (well, if you
>> want it to *really*
>> >last, you use properly fired bricks, and lay them
>> properly, but Grant St
>> >shows firing is hard, and laying bricks is a lost
>> art; Besides, things
>> >aren't as smooth, and people don't like that)
>> >
>> >The asphalt over concrete that's been happening a
>> lot lately is probably
>> >an ok compromise; Do sleazy deep-patching, then
>> just roll asphalt over it.
>> >Asphalt's rutting, binder is gone? Scrape it off
>> the concrete, recycle it,
>> >and put it down again.
>> >
>> >Of course, the usual paving "machine" (typically
>> just a movable jig on a
>> >track put down to make it easy to continuously
>> pour) would leave cleaning
>> >to be done if you actually ran it over girder rail;
>> I'm actually somewhat
>> >curious how they lay concrete over rail. In the old
>> days the answer was
>> >almost certainly "by hand".
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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