[PRCo] Re: Broadway, Dormont

[Boris Cefer]

Very good, sharp colour shots of 11s and 12s at the South Side and in the
Golden Triangle area. Guess there are also some shots of Spring Garden PCCs.
Sorry, my memory is short :-)

B

----- Original Message -----
From: "Edward H. Lybarger" <trams at adelphia.net>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 7:08 PM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Broadway, Dormont


> Had to be somewhere else...I've never seen that video.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of James
> B. Holland
> Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 12:56 PM
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Broadway, Dormont
>
>
> That video made in Canada of PCCs across North America  (from 16mm color
> film)  shows some New Looking 1200s on Broadway  --  and 12s arrived in
> 1940.
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> Edward H. Lybarger wrote:
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> >Broadway Avenue was double-tracked in 1940.  Somewhere I once saw a
photo,
> >but am not certain where at this writing.
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> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> >[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of James
> >B. Holland
> >Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 5:53 PM
> >To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> >Subject: [PRCo] Re: Station square
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> >
> >Hi Bill!
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> >You are referring to the portion in the center of Broadway in Dormont
> >from Potomac north (inbound) to  *near*  Wenzell overpass.       I have
> >often wondered the same.       A little historical perspective here.
> >
> >The Charleroi interurban inbound from Castle Shannon travelled the 38A
> >to Mt.Lebanon, then the 42 Dormont inbound to downtown    ----
> >Washington interurban not yet operating  --  and all this up until about
> >1907-1908 or there abouts!       Apparently the Whole of the 42-Dormont
> >was prw with center of the highway prw through Beechview.       Much of
> >this was single track with sidings; in fact, the Dormont wye area was
> >one long siding from the wye inbound almost to Biltmore Ave, the first
> >grade crossing.
> >
> >We haven't had much luck tracing out the actual date for double tracking
> >of the line, but Geodetic maps we found on the internet apparently
> >indicate that the double track prw was still intact on Broadway in
> >Beechview until approx the 1930s.       It Is Very  *Possible*
> >(*Possible*  the operative word)  that the paving of Broadway in
> >Beechview was a Depression Era Public Works project.       And it is
> >*Possible*  that the same is true of paving Broadway in Dormont as you
> >mention.
> >
> >Doesn't answer your  *Why*,  does it??!!! :-)       Very Possible that
> >concrete gives a much more stable base and keeps track in very good
> >alignment much better than open prw which requires tamping and
> >realignment,  NOT  that PRCo was bent on doing tamping!       This holds
> >true through experience    ----    I lived on the 42 line and the ride
> >along the concrete prw was exceptionally smooth and one knew simply by
> >feel the moment the car entered the open prw inbound as the ride became
> >quite bouncy and rough by comparison to the concrete.       I always
> >looked forward to this part of the ride because, even though the car was
> >still travelling about the same speed, it seemed as though it was moving
> >much faster  --  the bounce and sound of rail joints add tremendously to
> >this illusion!
> >
> >I enjoyed the supposed rough ride on PRCo rails but I definitely have
> >wonderful memories of the Interurbans running at speed through Overbrook
> >on multiples of occasions but something which became less possible as
> >the 1960s wore on.
> >
> >
> >Jim__Holland
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> >PS   --   checked other email before sending and stability of ride seems
> >to be a factor.
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> >Bill Robb wrote:
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> >>Any idea why PRC paved the 42 Dormont PRW to just over the top of the
> >>ties, but not flush with the top of the rail? Concrete is an expensive
> >>method of paving.
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> >>Bill Robb
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