[PRCo] Re: FYI about PAT CAF cars

[Fred Schneider]

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"Dietrich, Robert J." wrote:

> With all the discussion about sending big ticket items overseas for
> rebuilding I'll pass on one I heard on the radio news the other day.
> Keep in mind that I only hear half of what comes out of the radio and I
> remember only half of that.  Also I don't have time to follow-up, I
> hardly have time to keep up with these discussions; but I digress.
>
> The news report went something like - one or two airlines are flying
> their planes to El Salvador for major maintenance as a cost savings
> initiative.  I can't remember what airlines but it is a little scary to
> me.  What FAA will be regulating those overhauls?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of
> James B. Holland
> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 7:07 PM
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: FYI about PAT CAF cars
>
> Don't know that CAF is being criticized  --  just the process of what is
>
> happening.       My comments were strictly tongue-in-cheek.
>
> B--U--T.......      since you bring it up  --  I am  NOT  a fan of
> Siemens-Deuwag equipment.       Everything I have ridden has a tendency
> to hunt, very strong tendency.       One car in a train in Sacramento
> was so bad  --  believe it was the artic truck but can't remember for
> sure  --  was so bad that I got off the train fearing derailment at
> speed.       Even the Portland 70% low-floor cars had this tendency when
>
> brand new  --  haven't been back so I don't know how they have fared
> over time.       Would hope to get up there soon but don't think I
> shall.       The controllers look like Toy Train  --  ok if it is a toy
> train but this is  *supposed*  to be prototype.       And the disc
> brakes will set up automatically when the train  *coasts*  below a
> certain speed  --  brake does  NOT  need to be applied.       So
> motorman has difficulty with slow speeds at traffic points.       And
> the discs can chatter severely when this happens.       Nope, Not a fan
> of deuwag equipment  --  You Can Have It.
>
> The Portland 70% low-floor cars are utilitarian but have not and shall
> not ride in the low-floor section  --  too vulnerable from side
> impact    ----    MUCH  comments about that problem on the transit
> lists.       Portland has The Very Best modern rail cars with those
> produced by Bombardier  --  they are coming up on 20-years old.
> Portland will lose its appeal for me when those cars are retired.
>
> Jim__Holland
>
> Harold G. wrote:
>
> > Why all this criticism of CAF and Elmira?
> >
> > I liked the CAF cars for Sacramento. Also the Ring line cars for
> > Amsterdam.
> >
> > Harold Geissenheimer
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Swindler <j_swindler at hotmail.com>
> > To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> > Date: Monday, January 24, 2005 9:47 AM
> > Subject: [PRCo] Re: FYI about PAT CAF cars
> >
> >
> >>
> >>> James B. Holland asked:
> >>>
> >>> CAF -- That's CAlifornia, F-Line, San Francisco.......
> >>>
> >>> Keerect??
> >>>
> >>
> >> try:
> >>
> >> http://www.caf.es/10/instalaciones.asp
> >>
> >> and it's practically in your back yard, Jim
> >>
> >> Looks like CAF also acquired the former Adtranz plant in Elmira. And
> >> we all know what got fixed up at this plant.
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >>
> >>> John Swindler wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> CAF also has a plant in Sacramento. Suspect that there is more to
> >>>> this saga that hasn't come out yet.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> From: "Boris Cefer" <westinghouse at iol.cz>
> >>>>> Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> >>>>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> >>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: [Fwd: FYI about PAT CAF cars]
> >>>>> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 08:39:37 +0100
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Any guess what the cost of the trip to Spain and back is?
> >>>>