[PRCo] Re: FYI about PAT CAF cars

[Fred Schneider]

John et al:

The sad thing about this is that both John and I are dependent for our pensions
on the ability of the government to tax and collect taxes from the public.
Supposedly our state pensions are invested properly but that can easily be
summed up in the words of the person who approached someone else saying, "I'm
from the government and I'm here to help you."   Certainly an ever increasing
number of retirees in Pennsylvania with a constant population and a declining
number of jobs does not look good for those of us on pension.   So John, we
travel while we can.  fws

John Swindler wrote:

> >Fred Schneider mentioned:
> >
> >Jobs will always chace the cheapest workers.  As sad as it may seem to
> >Americans, we've got a lot more jobs to loose unless we want to pay our
> >help
> >50 cents an hour.
> >
>
> Concerning jobs chasing cheap labor:  I'll always remember a professor at
> Point Park College mentioning that New York Life would bundle up their US
> paperwork every night and air freight it to Ireland for processing.  Why?
> Yes, cheaper labor, but also better educated and better work ethic.  And
> this was around 1970.
>
> The next jobs to be outsourced overseas?  White collar jobs.  When you call
> for computer help, you very well could be talking to someone living in
> India.
>
> And Harold has mentioned Jet Blue.  Where is their reservations center?  I
> was surprised when a tv show - might have been discovery or A&E - mentioned
> that it's in the homes of part time contract workers in Salt Lake City
> region.
>
> (In many respects, I have a lot to be thankful for.)
>
> John
>
> p.s.  didn't the center fuselage section of the Boeing 757 come from
> Kawasaki???
>
> p.s. to p.s.  So were mine, Jim
>
> >"Dietrich, Robert J." wrote:
> >
> > > With all the discussion about sending big ticket items overseas for
> > > rebuilding I'll pass on one I heard on the radio news the other day.
> > > Keep in mind that I only hear half of what comes out of the radio and I
> > > remember only half of that.  Also I don't have time to follow-up, I
> > > hardly have time to keep up with these discussions; but I digress.
> > >
> > > The news report went something like - one or two airlines are flying
> > > their planes to El Salvador for major maintenance as a cost savings
> > > initiative.  I can't remember what airlines but it is a little scary to
> > > me.  What FAA will be regulating those overhauls?
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> > > [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of
> > > James B. Holland
> > > Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 7:07 PM
> > > To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> > > Subject: [PRCo] Re: FYI about PAT CAF cars
> > >
> > > Don't know that CAF is being criticized  --  just the process of what is
> > >
> > > happening.       My comments were strictly tongue-in-cheek.
> > >
> > > B--U--T.......      since you bring it up  --  I am  NOT  a fan of
> > > Siemens-Deuwag equipment.       Everything I have ridden has a tendency
> > > to hunt, very strong tendency.       One car in a train in Sacramento
> > > was so bad  --  believe it was the artic truck but can't remember for
> > > sure  --  was so bad that I got off the train fearing derailment at
> > > speed.       Even the Portland 70% low-floor cars had this tendency when
> > >
> > > brand new  --  haven't been back so I don't know how they have fared
> > > over time.       Would hope to get up there soon but don't think I
> > > shall.       The controllers look like Toy Train  --  ok if it is a toy
> > > train but this is  *supposed*  to be prototype.       And the disc
> > > brakes will set up automatically when the train  *coasts*  below a
> > > certain speed  --  brake does  NOT  need to be applied.       So
> > > motorman has difficulty with slow speeds at traffic points.       And
> > > the discs can chatter severely when this happens.       Nope, Not a fan
> > > of deuwag equipment  --  You Can Have It.
> > >
> > > The Portland 70% low-floor cars are utilitarian but have not and shall
> > > not ride in the low-floor section  --  too vulnerable from side
> > > impact    ----    MUCH  comments about that problem on the transit
> > > lists.       Portland has The Very Best modern rail cars with those
> > > produced by Bombardier  --  they are coming up on 20-years old.
> > > Portland will lose its appeal for me when those cars are retired.
> > >
> > > Jim__Holland
> > >
> > > Harold G. wrote:
> > >
> > > > Why all this criticism of CAF and Elmira?
> > > >
> > > > I liked the CAF cars for Sacramento. Also the Ring line cars for
> > > > Amsterdam.
> > > >
> > > > Harold Geissenheimer
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: John Swindler <j_swindler at hotmail.com>
> > > > To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> > > <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> > > > Date: Monday, January 24, 2005 9:47 AM
> > > > Subject: [PRCo] Re: FYI about PAT CAF cars
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >>> James B. Holland asked:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> CAF -- That's CAlifornia, F-Line, San Francisco.......
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Keerect??
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >> try:
> > > >>
> > > >> http://www.caf.es/10/instalaciones.asp
> > > >>
> > > >> and it's practically in your back yard, Jim
> > > >>
> > > >> Looks like CAF also acquired the former Adtranz plant in Elmira. And
> > > >> we all know what got fixed up at this plant.
> > > >>
> > > >> John
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> John Swindler wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> CAF also has a plant in Sacramento. Suspect that there is more to
> > > >>>> this saga that hasn't come out yet.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> From: "Boris Cefer" <westinghouse at iol.cz>
> > > >>>>> Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> > > >>>>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> > > >>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: [Fwd: FYI about PAT CAF cars]
> > > >>>>> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 08:39:37 +0100
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Any guess what the cost of the trip to Spain and back is?
> > > >>>>
> >
> >
> >