[PRCo] Road Salt to SHJ at PTM

[Dietrich, Robert J.]

Folks:

I just got off the phone with Scott Becker confirming that I'll take the
Junction to PTM on September 11.  That is a Sunday, the day of the
antique truck show - I guess I have to start somewhere :-)  I just hope
we don't have a plane crash into the place.

So if you're in the neighborhood stop by and take a look.  I know it is
a long way off so I'll send a reminder when the time gets close.

Thanks.

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of John
Swindler
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 8:33 AM
To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Road Salt



Obviously your not "short" enough, Bob.  (those who have been in
military 
will understand)

Only one year, one month and a day - but who's counting <gg>

By the way, again greatly enjoyed your South Hills Jct. module at the
East 
Penn meet.  Have you ever considered setting it up at a PTM event??
(just a 
hint)

John



>From: "Dietrich, Robert J." <Robert.Dietrich at unisys.com>
>Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>Subject: [PRCo] Re: Road Salt
>Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 07:50:07 -0400
>
>This has been the most amazing thread I remember seeing from this
group.
>What started out as a comment/question about Johnstown streetcars, went
>through a tour of the North East and Canada, got into old automobiles,
>salt, rust, rusty busses (naturally), then right back on topic with
salt
>cans in PRCo streetcars.  Wow!  I must admit, though, my delete key was
>working overtime; I just don't have time to work and read all these
>posts.  But don't quit - only 2 1/2 years and I'll be reading
>everything.
>
>Bob
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
>[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of Bob
>Rathke
>Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 10:11 PM
>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>Subject: [PRCo] Re: Road Salt
>
>I remember seeing a PRC ACF (orange) bus in service as a salt spreader
>on
>Troy Hill in 1956, salting
>streets on the 4-Troy Hill trolley line.
>
>I also remember seeing cinder barrels (55 gallon drums tipped on their
>sides) along highway route 30 in Greensburg in the mid-1950's.  This
was
>when route 30 ran through town on city streets, and before the days of
>the
>four-lane route 30 bypass. Local residents and motorists would scatter
>cinders from the barrels to the streets as needed after a snowfall.
>
>Bob 5/26/095
>
>-----------------------------
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Fred Schneider" <fschnei at supernet.com>
>To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 11:04 AM
>Subject: [PRCo] Re: Road Salt
>
>
> > I can only give a partial answer.  PRC did have at least one old ACF
>bus
>with a
> > salt spreader therein.  Whether they used it on their own property
or
>on
>public
> > streets is unknown to me.  Remember that there was also a lot of
paved
>private
> > right-of-way in Pittsburgh.  I've not sure who had to do that.  I do
>remember
> > that PAT was ordered by the courts to build new highway bridges in
>places
>where
> > their older bridges had been decked for automobiles.
> >
> > We moved out of Pittsburgh in 1949 ... the winter of 1948-49 was my
>last.
>I
> > never saw salt but I vividly remember a man in the back of a dump
>truck
>with a
> > shovel ... he was tossing cinders out on PA route 80 in Penn
Township.
>One
> > might suspect that cinders, in those days, were cheap if not free to
>state
>and
> > township road crews.  Crushed slag and cinders all appear black
>against a
>white
> > show ... could have been either.
> >
> > I'm not sure when salting became common.  Pittsburgh always has some
>snow
>in the
> > winter.   Here in Lancaster we can go several years between
measurable
>snows,
> > then get it with a noreaster.  Sometime in the 1950s I saw salt.
> >
> > Of course, Ken, this is asking a 65-year old demented individual to
>remember
> > what happened 50-55 years ago.
> >
> > Ken & Tracie wrote:
> >
> > > Well, my Imperial and my truck are a bit newer than my station
>wagon.
>Tracie
> > > is driving a '99 Toyota, so maybe she has the most sanity.
>Especially
>with
> > > gasoline at $2.50 per gallon.
> > > I would suspect the El Paso PCCs have/had some rust. Desert winds
>blow
>dust
> > > into nooks, crannies and crevices. During the rainy season,
moisture
>gets
> > > absorbed by this packed in dirt, leading to some rust issues, but
it
>is
> > > never as extensive as salt induced rust damage.
> > >
> > > When did Pittsburgh begin salting the city streets? Did Pittsburgh
>Railways
> > > apply the salt along car lines, or was this completely the
>responsibility of
> > > local government?
> > >
> > > I seem to remember somebody noting crushed slag was used for a
time.
> > >
> > > K.
>RR
>
>
>
>