[PRCo] Re: Knowing the neighborhoods

[Howard Andrews]

This chain has been rather though provoking for me.  I was born and raised
in
Pittsburgh but in my adult years have lived in Ohio and Michigan.

As a Product Engineer for Ford I traved through out the United States,  and
as
an IT Manager I've been to Europe too many times... sometimes I think of it
as my second office since I've had employees based in England and Germany
on many of my project.  I was also luck enough to spend time in Australia as
part of a Rotary Exchange program.

My circle of friend and professional associates have also traveled
extensively
on business and personal trips.  And,  most of my professional associates at
Ford are from somewhere other than Michigan.  So I guess I live in a
unique social circle where mobility is the rule rather than the exception.

Recently I renewed contact with a college friend.   She still lives in
Pittsburgh - in fact she grew up in Carrick, lived there most of her life
and just recently made the "big move" to Whitehall.  She's never been
out of the country - for that matter she's never been out of the state.
This puzzled me - how someone could go through their adult
life in isolation.  (Guess I should add, my Dad traveled for his
company - he was all thought he US and Mexico, and I saw
most of the eastern US with him).  Reading this chain makes
me realize I'm the exception and she's the rule.  No wonder as
a nation we have such a narrow view of the world!

Howard Andrews

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Rathke" <bobrathke at comcast.net>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 11:51 PM
Subject: [PRCo] Knowing the neighborhoods


> Fred,
>
> I continue to be amazed at how often I meet people who have lived in
Chicago
> all their lives, but have no idea of the areas just a few miles beyond
their
> neighborhoods.
>
> I've lived here since late 1983, and I think that by early 1984 I had
> studied the street maps and I had a good idea where neighboring towns were
> located.  I even went out and visited some of these neighborhoods, just to
> see where they are and what they look like.
>
> Yesterday I had a meeting with a business professional in the Loop who has
> lived here nearly all his life, but he has never been in Union Station,
nor
> does he know exactly where it is located.
>
> I still remember the New Yorker I met when I was living in Manhattasn in
> 1968.  I told him that I was from Pittsburgh, and he replied, "Isn't that
in
> the Poconos?"
>
> Bob 3/4/05
>
> -----------------------------
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Fred Schneider" <fschnei at supernet.com>
> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 5:55 PM
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: 94 Sharpsburg - 62nd Street Bridge
>
>
> > Back in the late 1960s I spent a miserable two years teaching in a
public
> high
> > school in the Lancaster area ... best thing I ever did was leave and
find
> > something I loved to do.  One of my impressions during that period is
that
> most
> > of the kids I worked with considered a long vacation trip to be a
Saturday
> > journey to the Delaware Park Race Track in Newark, Delaware.  The
teacher
> of
> > Pennsylvania history had never been west of Harrisburg ... you should
have
> heard
> > him trying to pronounce Monongahela.
> >
> > And when I was awaiting the ship for Germany in 1959, the army detailed
me
> to
> > the finance office at Fort Dix to type up payroll vouchers for those
chaps
> > coming back home from Europe.  I was stunned.  Most people had no
interest
> in
> > seeing Germany or France or wherever it was we had placed them.  We were
> paying
> > almost every one of them (somewhere over 90 percent) for every single
day
> of
> > vacation they accumulated while in Europe.  (I let them pay me for zero
> days
> > when I came home.)
> >
> > Railfans are an odd lot in more ways than one.  Few "normal" people I've
> met had
> > the comprehension of maps that the average railfan does.  Isn't it
great?
> >
> > Bob Rathke wrote:
> >
> > > Many people in Pittsburgh have never left "their" side of the river,
let
> > > alone travel out of the state.  So, some people on the South Side
would
> > > never know that Brady Street was on the other end of the South 22nd
St.
> > > Bridge :-)
> > >
> > > Bob 3/4/05
> > >
> > > -----------------------------
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Derrick J Brashear" <shadow at dementia.org>
> > > To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> > > Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 10:44 AM
> > > Subject: [PRCo] Re: 94 Sharpsburg - 62nd Street Bridge
> > >
> > > > On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, John Swindler wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Interesting.  I never heard it referred to as the 22nd St. bridge,
> but
> > > then
> > > > > I lived in the East End.  I would tend to link a numbered street
> with
> > > the
> > > > > strip district and routes 87 and 88.
> > > >
> > > > South 22nd st, but that's commonly left out. Remember the 10th st
> bridge
> > > > goes from 2nd Avenue at the Armstrong Tunnels to the South Side.
> Really it
> > > > is the south 10th St bridge. Some old maps still call the new bridge
> the
> > > > 22nd St Bridge. Of course, 22nd St is *next to* the bridge, but...
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>