[PRCo] Re: Interurban PCCs ???

[James B. Holland]

Another clarification.       As we are talking about only the 1700--1774 
WH cars, the same holds for the 1600 and 1601--1674 cars  --  we do not 
know about GE in either series  --  correct?

Yes, PRCo trackage was rough relative to other properties, but it was in 
the early 1960s when I experienced the governor cut-out of power on both 
the 17s and 16s  --  you could still get those cars rolling very nicely!

Maybe Ed could check those jumpers on 1711 as Hands-On Training for his 
Electrical Engineering Degree!!!

Jim



Boris Cefer wrote:

> But the earlier books appear more detailed.
> There are possibly some data in GE wiring diagrams, but I haven't seen 
> any except for the early air cars (1000-1200 series), but they don't 
> make me happy because the early GE design was terribly complicated. GE 
> parts catalogs do not contain any useful data, these are endless lists 
> of parts with some pictures only.
>
> And an another question is still the Westinghouse 1700s. Their 
> equipment allowed to change the balancing speed by means of higher 
> field shunting.   Only four small jumpers joined to the field shunting 
> resistors increased the balancing speed several mph, but we don't have 
> any evidence whether PRCo or later PAAC did not dismantle them to 
> avoid eventual accidents due extremely high speed over irregular 
> track. Memory is sometimes very delusive and some few can tell us what 
> the top speed was 50 years back. Our friends at PTM would have to 
> check whether the jumpers on 1711 are in place...
>
> B
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James B. Holland" <PRCoPCC at P-R-Co.com>
> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 10:17 PM
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Interurban PCCs ???
>
>
>> Time to speculate why GE was so Resistant to include specific 
>> information!! :-)
>>
>> Various PCCs had been *tested* for interurban service according to 
>> that 1952 ERA type dissertation on the PRCo Interurbans as well as 
>> the Ira Swett article on Charleroi -- but they weren't specific about 
>> the tests and whether or not the PCCs were run beyond Library -- we 
>> know that they were used as trippers this far and even the PTM 
>> calendar shows an 1100 used for Fair Grounds tripper about 1949 or 1950.
>>
>> With 1613 and 1614 converted for interurban Test service within 
>> 6-months of delivery (at least for 1613) PRCo was *probably* 
>> considering PCCs for interurban service even as the 1601s were 
>> ordered. Guess we shall never know For Sure without something turning 
>> up in the archives.
>>
>>
>> Jim__Holland
>

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