[PRCo] Re: PCC__Handbrakes

[James B. Holland]

YOU  seem to have made it such!!

Jim


Boris Cefer wrote:

>Is the WATER PUMP an official term???
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>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "James B. Holland" <PRCoPCC at P-R-Co.com>
>To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 4:28 PM
>Subject: [PRCo] Re: PCC__Handbrakes
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>>Thank You, Boris  --  thought this was the case and was looking for your 
>>previous posts on this subject last night  --  sleep got the better of 
>>me.       Was trying to remember the front end of the 16xx-Interurbans 
>>and Do Remember the mechanism for the Air-Horn being mounted where the 
>>Water Pump(!) was located.
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>>Boris Cefer wrote:
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>>>The interurban 1600s with B-3 trucks had air-released, spring-applied 
>>>drum brakes, so they did not have hand brake. To release the brakes to 
>>>allow pushing a broken car, each air actuator had a small hook similar 
>>>to that on 1700s, which released the spring in the actuator.
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>>>Boris
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>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: <hrbran99 at adelphia.net>
>>>To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>>>Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 2:10 AM
>>>Subject: [PRCo] Re: PCC__Handbrakes
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>>>>I was taught, in streetcar training at PAT that all AIR CARS had 
>>>>air-applied, spring-released brakes and all ALL ELECTRIC CARS had 
>>>>spring-applied, electrically released brakes. Hence, the all 
>>>>electrics did not need an "emergency" brake. The brakes came on 
>>>>automatically when the electric power in the brake circuit was lost. 
>>>>Also, all electric cars had to have the "brake release" levers on 
>>>>each side of each truck to get the brakes released to tow the car. 
>>>>Howerver, the air cars HAD to have an emergency braking system 
>>>>(manual) because when the air pressure was lost so were the brakes. 
>>>>Also, bear in mind that when I went through streetcar training at PAT 
>>>>the only classes of PCC cars remaining were the 1600s and 1700s.
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>>>>However, I should think that if the 1200s were air-electric with air 
>>>>brakes then they had to have had an emergency braking system. If they 
>>>>had electric brakes which were spring applied and electrically 
>>>>released then they would not need an emergency braking system.
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>>>>I do not have the two PCC books at hand right now to check. Does 
>>>>anyone know what braking system was on the 1200s?
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>>>>Herb Brannon
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>>Jim__Holland
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>>I__Like__Ike.......And__PCCs!!
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>>down with pantographs ---- UP___WITH___TROLLEYPOLES!!!!!!!
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Jim__Holland


I__Like__Ike.......And__PCCs!!

down with pantographs ---- UP___WITH___TROLLEYPOLES!!!!!!!