[PRCo] Re: "Johnstown" trolley at Kenosha

Ken & Tracie ktjosephson at earthlink.net
Tue May 24 00:28:14 EDT 2005


I may have this wrong, but IRM initially acquired an ex-KCPS PCC from Muni. 
Muni had acquired the car from the TTC. The car was deemed too deteriorated 
to justify a restoration, so it was stripped for parts and scrapped. A 
better ex-KCPS PCC was then acquired from SEPTA (it was SEPTA's 2267) and is 
undergoing a restoration to KCPS condition. IRM also has an ex-Cleveland PCC 
(a Pullman, Cleveland Transit System 4223.) I do not know if the 
ex-Cleveland car came directly from the TTC or if it was one of the cars 
sent to Shaker Heights from Toronto. I seem to remember reading in "Rail and 
Wire" that 4223 was receiving extensive sheet metal replacement.

To get back on topic, the 2267 ran on the same rails as 2711 and 2711 now 
runs on the same rails as 1711, which is originally from Pittsburgh.... :-)

K.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Swindler" <j_swindler at hotmail.com>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 1:28 PM


> Is Illinois Ry Museum rebuilding an ex. Cleveland PCC car from CTS via 
> TTC,
> Shaker?  Or do I have this mixed up with an ex. Kansas City car???
>
> John 





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