[PRCo] OT::_--_01.>--KCPS___All--Electrics_--_02.>--TTC

James B. Holland PRCoPCC at P-R-Co.com
Sun Nov 20 10:30:42 EST 2005


Bill Robb wrote:

> The KC car with the 42/38 sign was taken at the long gone Bloor-Yonge 
> Transfer station:
>
> http://lists.dementia.org/files/pittsburgh-railways/4778_42-38.jpg
>
> The KC car and the air car was taken at Long Branch loop at the 
> extreme west end of the system:
>
> http://lists.dementia.org/files/pittsburgh-railways/4778Library.jpg
>
> Bill Robb


Thank You for the update, Bill!


DISCLAIMER::   --   Searching for an understanding, not trying to disturb.

KCPS All-Electrics are listed as having 30-degree layback to windshield 
but it doesn't look like this.       Looks  Can  Be  Deceiving.       
Layback at far left edge  (from motorman's perspective)  appears similar 
to other All-Electrics yet centerpiece of windshield does Not appear to 
be 30-degree.       Possibility of differing shape of right side 
windshield as opposed to curved top and side may also play part in this 
deception.       Interesting that  Many//Most//All  Philly All-Electrics 
have  Similar//Same  front windshield!


Believe that 1960 was my first exposure to TTC  --  Shrine convention 
there and I went with Grandfather.       Observed an TTC PCC in Heavy 
Traffic responding identically to PRCo 1725--1799 and later learned  
(from Clark Equipment)  that these cars had the B2B  --  PRCo had just 
taken soft ride out of these trucks but it still remained in Toronto.

The very late 1960s or early 1970s was the next time I was in Toronto 
and rode with a motorman who had one of the 4500s  --  will have to find 
my map to identify the route.       Had more fun with a little MG that  
*-continually-*  tried to pass us without success  --  we would take off 
from a stop and literally dust that little MG - he would be shifting 
like crazy  --  then we would stop for passengers which forced the MG to 
stop.       Took  Many  tries for him to get by that PCC!!

Long branch was one of my favorites because of all the prw  --  Very 
Smooth and Nice Fast Ride!




Jim__Holland


I__Like__Ike.......And__PCCs!!

down with pantographs ---- UP___WITH___TROLLEYPOLES!!!!!!!




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