[PRCo] Re: Routes that Could Have Been Retained

mtoytrain at bellsouth.net mtoytrain at bellsouth.net
Fri Oct 7 16:37:01 EDT 2005


When PRCo/ PAT decided to wipe out trolley lines, was there any opposition by the general public?
I was living here in Florida and I know I would have stated what i felt needed to be done.  Cost for
cost, is it not true it costs much more to operate a Bus than a street car?    
Philly has a new type of trolley, (single unit) what is the cost comparison of one of those units verses a new gas gussiling bus?

Jerry Matsick

> 
> From: "James B. Holland" <PRCoPCC at P-R-Co.com>
> Date: 2005/10/07 Fri PM 04:30:49 EDT
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Routes that Could Have Been Retained
> 
> Matt Barry wrote:
> .
> 
> > Looking at this photograph, 
> > http://www.davesrailpix.com/pitts/htm/pitt245.htm I recalled what a 
> > pleasant ride it was heading out to the Highland Park Zoo from East 
> > Liberty, after a transfer from an outbound 88 car.
> >
> > I realize that the Oakland portions of the line, Fifth and Forbes are 
> > now mostly one-way from Downtown to Oakland,
> 
> 
> TrolleyCars could still use Fifth and Forbes in the direction of traffic 
> and abandon the opposing direction of track!
> 
> Some politico is trying to revive  *-Streetcars-*  in the Forbes // 
> Fifth corridor  --  anymore news on this??
> 
> > Why am I thinking about this at all? Tourists. While I was in New 
> > Orleans this past May, I realized that a lot of the folks riding the 
> > St. Charles (in particular) and the newer Canal Street lines, were 
> > tourists.
> 
> 
> They tried to  -*Legislate-*  East Liberty into a Pedestrian Mall and 
> that failed.       The rehab of the near North Side failed as 
> well.       It's possible to  *-Legislate-*  anything as a tourist 
> attraction but will the tourists follow?
> 
> > Another line I thought would have made a decent tourist one was 39 
> > Brookline. And, of course, the grand tourist line of all, the Fineview.
> 
> 
> What would the attraction be for tourists on the 39-Brookline?       I 
> can see it from the railfans view but not the general tourist.
> 
> We  *-Did-*  have a big discussion on this a number of years back.       
> Ray Lattner suggested an Hysterical TrolleyCar line along East Carson - 
> I suggested combining it with the 49-//-40 lines.       Much  *talk*  
> ensued about What Should Be Done.       I suggested that we stop talking 
> and start organizing to make something happen    ----    the Thread Went 
> Dead Immediately!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Jim__Holland
> 
> 
> I__Like__Ike.......And__PCCs!!
> 
> down with pantographs ---- UP___WITH___TROLLEYPOLES!!!!!!!
> 
> 
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