[PRCo] Re: Routes that Could Have Been Retained

[Edward H. Lybarger]

Fred is far more experienced in this than I am.  He's the guy to define it.

Ed

-----Original Message-----
From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of Fred
Schneider
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 4:13 PM
To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Routes that Could Have Been Retained


I'm going to take this off list.   If someone else wants involved.   
Yell fast.

On Oct 7, 2005, at 3:56 PM, <mtoytrain at bellsouth.net> wrote:

> Boris, Fred and Ed
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> You European travelers, it has been a number of years since  
> traveling all around Euroope, both East and West, what is the  
> current status of streetcar or trolley lines in the various  
> European capitals?
> that was a thrill for me, no matter where I went and that was to  
> ride a street car!
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> Jerry Matsick
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>> From: Matt Barry <mrb190+ at pitt.edu>
>> Date: 2005/10/07 Fri PM 03:52:47 EDT
>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Routes that Could Have Been Retained
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>> Yes!
>> Boris Cefer wrote:
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>>> Everything should have been retained!
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>>> Boris
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>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Matt Barry" <mrb190+ at pitt.edu>
>>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 8:21 PM
>>> Subject: [PRCo] Routes that Could Have Been Retained
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>>>> Looking at this photograph,
>>>> http://www.davesrailpix.com/pitts/htm/pitt245.htm  I recalled  
>>>> what a
>>>> pleasant ride it was heading out to the Highland Park Zoo from East
>>>> Liberty, after a transfer from an outbound 88 car.
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>>>> I realize that the Oakland portions of the line, Fifth and  
>>>> Forbes are
>>>> now mostly one-way from Downtown to Oakland, but a solution  
>>>> would have
>>>> been using 88 Frankstown trackage to East Liberty, then to  
>>>> Negley Ave,
>>>> and on to the Highland Park terminus.   Penn Avenue is still  
>>>> relatively
>>>> Penn Avenue, as it was before the conversions in 1967.  OK, for  
>>>> awhile
>>>> there was a huge building parked on top of Penn in East Liberty,  
>>>> but it
>>>> had an underpass for buses, then ultimately all transportation  
>>>> once the
>>>> idea of a pedestrian mall failed.  And Negley and the Highland  
>>>> Park area
>>>> still has the same two-way streets and one-way streets the  
>>>> trolleys used.
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>>>> Why am I thinking about this at all?     Tourists.     While I  
>>>> was in
>>>> New Orleans this past May, I realized that a lot of the folks  
>>>> riding the
>>>> St. Charles (in particular) and the newer Canal Street lines, were
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>>> tourists.
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>>>> Another line I thought would have made a decent tourist one was 39
>>>> Brookline.   And, of course, the grand tourist line of all, the  
>>>> Fineview.
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