[PRCo] Re: Routes that Could Have Been Retained

[John Swindler]

>From: "James B. Holland" <PRCoPCC at P-R-Co.com>
>Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>Subject: [PRCo] Re: Routes that Could Have Been Retained
>Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 13:52:54 -0700
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>mtoytrain at bellsouth.net wrote:
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> > When PRCo/ PAT decided to wipe out trolley lines, was there any
> > opposition by the general public? I was living here in Florida and I
> > know I would have stated what i felt needed to be done. Cost for cost,
> > is it not true it costs much more to operate a Bus than a street car?
> > Philly has a new type of trolley, (single unit) what is the cost
> > comparison of one of those units verses a new gas gussiling bus?
> >
> > Jerry Matsick
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Did PRC decided to wipe out trolley lines, Jerry????????????

It was the government, in form of PAT, that decided to wipe out trolley 
lines.  It appears that PRC decided only that they would not make any 
unnecessary investment in continued trolley operation.  My suspicion (with 
emphasis that this is only a guess)   is that the requirement to restore the 
road surface may have had a lot to do with PRC's rail longivity.

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>THE    CITY    had been trying to do in PRCo for many years, maybe even
>decades.       Difficult to gauge public reaction except that I Do
>Remember many people saying that trolleycars on streets slow traffic -
>buses could pull to the curb.
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>PRCo seemed quite content to keep the trolleycars  --  ({[pat]})  was
>Hades-Bent on getting rid of same.       The only thing that went under
>PRCo was the West End - virtually everything else remained intact!
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>Facts and Figgers can be used to tell any story one wants to tell, even
>opposing stories.       TrolleyCars themselves last longer than buses
>but cost more.       Then there is the infrastructure for
>TrolleyCars.       TrolleyCars and Electric Vehicles Used To Be More
>Efficient at moving large volumes of people - how that will change with
>current Energy Crisis is yet to be seen!!
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>Philly now has what they call the PCC2  --  totally remanufactured PCCs
>from their old fleet.       They also have the Kawasaki streetcars
>(K-Cars.)       ALL  indications are that septic doesn't want such rail
>cars  --  being forced upon them by SIGs and others.       Not unlike
>({[pat]})  Not Wanting to rebuild Overbrook.
>

???  Bill Millar referred to Overbrook as his 'stealth' capital project.  It 
was a long process.

John


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>Jim__Holland
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>I__Like__Ike.......And__PCCs!!
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>down with pantographs ---- UP___WITH___TROLLEYPOLES!!!!!!!
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