[PRCo] Re: American PCC Street Cars

Fred Schneider fwschneider at comcast.net
Sat Oct 22 12:40:05 EDT 2005


There was a piece on Egypt in the last month or so in Modern Tramway  
(I'll never remember the new name for the magazine) that said all  
those cars were gone.

The newer articulated cars for the Hague (Holland) were built using  
parts salvaged from older PCC cars, including trucks.   There were  
several cars that were built in the US and shipped over, and for all  
I know some of those parts may still be around.

I haven't been in Brussels in more than a decade ... all the pictures  
I've seen lately are new LRVs.

Vicinal, in Belgium, had one car built by St. Louis Car and 24  
similar cars built by La Brugge in Belgium.   Disliked by Vicinal,  
they would up in Belgrade, Yugoslavia.   I think the St. Louis car  
wound up back in a tramway museum in Belgium some time after we did  
the PCC books.

fws

On Oct 22, 2005, at 10:20 AM, <mtoytrain at bellsouth.net> wrote:

>   Boris
>
>    Thanks for the update - you and the rest of the PRCo group, make  
> this my favorite discussion
>    group.
>
>     Jerry M
>
>>
>> From: "Boris Cefer" <westinghouse at iol.cz>
>> Date: 2005/10/22 Sat AM 10:04:10 EDT
>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: American PCC Street Cars
>>
>> The only PCC existency which I can confirm is an ex-Washington DC  
>> car in
>> Sarajevo, former Yugoslavia. In the early 60s they purchased 74  
>> PCCs, some
>> of which they converted to articulated units (9 cars). They have  
>> preserved
>> one (non-rebuilt) PCC #71 for occasional charters. The original  
>> number of it
>> is unknown, at least to me.
>>
>> There should be several ex-DC PCCs also in Barcelona, Spain, but  
>> these are
>> non-operational wrecks.
>>
>> There were also ex-LA PCCs in Cairo and ex-Toronto PCCs in  
>> Alexandria, both
>> Egypt, North Africa, but there is no way to check the existency of  
>> eventual
>> PCC orphans on that continent. All of them are probably long gone,  
>> judging
>> from the mentality of Egyptians who destroyed all articulated  
>> Tatra cars
>> (200 units, I think)within 10 years after delivery Cairo. They  
>> replaced the
>> aging ex-LA PCCs, but are more than 20 years gone.
>>
>> In Belgium there still may be in use some components (trucks and  
>> electrical
>> apparatus) salvaged from Johnstown and Kansas City cars.
>>
>> B
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <mtoytrain at bellsouth.net>
>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 3:41 PM
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: American PCC Street Cars
>>
>>
>>
>>> Good Morning or Afternoon Boris
>>>
>>> re;    American PCC Street Cars
>>>
>>> Boris how are you, question, are there American Mode PCCs  
>>> operating in
>>>
>> Europe, and what
>>
>>> city are they operating in and where did the come from.
>>>
>>> Always enjoy your posts and comments.
>>>
>>> Jerry Matsick
>>> Jacksonville - "a trackless trolley town"
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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