[PRCo] Re: American PCC Street Cars

[John Swindler]

I thought about 50 of the Brussels four-axle PCC cars went through a rehab 
about 10 years ago.  If so, one could argue that you - might - still be able 
to ride a 'Johnstown or Kansas City' PCC car.  (they were the more recent 
4-axle cars)   After all, would the PCC cars in Brussels built with second 
hand US parts be much different then the 4000 series PCC cars in 
Pittsburgh??

Just something to struggle with perception (:>)

John


>From: Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net>
>Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>Subject: [PRCo] Re: American PCC Street Cars
>Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 12:40:05 -0400
>
>There was a piece on Egypt in the last month or so in Modern Tramway
>(I'll never remember the new name for the magazine) that said all
>those cars were gone.
>
>The newer articulated cars for the Hague (Holland) were built using
>parts salvaged from older PCC cars, including trucks.   There were
>several cars that were built in the US and shipped over, and for all
>I know some of those parts may still be around.
>
>I haven't been in Brussels in more than a decade ... all the pictures
>I've seen lately are new LRVs.
>
>Vicinal, in Belgium, had one car built by St. Louis Car and 24
>similar cars built by La Brugge in Belgium.   Disliked by Vicinal,
>they would up in Belgrade, Yugoslavia.   I think the St. Louis car
>wound up back in a tramway museum in Belgium some time after we did
>the PCC books.
>
>fws
>
>On Oct 22, 2005, at 10:20 AM, <mtoytrain at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> >   Boris
> >
> >    Thanks for the update - you and the rest of the PRCo group, make
> > this my favorite discussion
> >    group.
> >
> >     Jerry M
> >
> >>
> >> From: "Boris Cefer" <westinghouse at iol.cz>
> >> Date: 2005/10/22 Sat AM 10:04:10 EDT
> >> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> >> Subject: [PRCo] Re: American PCC Street Cars
> >>
> >> The only PCC existency which I can confirm is an ex-Washington DC
> >> car in
> >> Sarajevo, former Yugoslavia. In the early 60s they purchased 74
> >> PCCs, some
> >> of which they converted to articulated units (9 cars). They have
> >> preserved
> >> one (non-rebuilt) PCC #71 for occasional charters. The original
> >> number of it
> >> is unknown, at least to me.
> >>
> >> There should be several ex-DC PCCs also in Barcelona, Spain, but
> >> these are
> >> non-operational wrecks.
> >>
> >> There were also ex-LA PCCs in Cairo and ex-Toronto PCCs in
> >> Alexandria, both
> >> Egypt, North Africa, but there is no way to check the existency of
> >> eventual
> >> PCC orphans on that continent. All of them are probably long gone,
> >> judging
> >> from the mentality of Egyptians who destroyed all articulated
> >> Tatra cars
> >> (200 units, I think)within 10 years after delivery Cairo. They
> >> replaced the
> >> aging ex-LA PCCs, but are more than 20 years gone.
> >>
> >> In Belgium there still may be in use some components (trucks and
> >> electrical
> >> apparatus) salvaged from Johnstown and Kansas City cars.
> >>
> >> B
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: <mtoytrain at bellsouth.net>
> >> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> >> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 3:41 PM
> >> Subject: [PRCo] Re: American PCC Street Cars
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Good Morning or Afternoon Boris
> >>>
> >>> re;    American PCC Street Cars
> >>>
> >>> Boris how are you, question, are there American Mode PCCs
> >>> operating in
> >>>
> >> Europe, and what
> >>
> >>> city are they operating in and where did the come from.
> >>>
> >>> Always enjoy your posts and comments.
> >>>
> >>> Jerry Matsick
> >>> Jacksonville - "a trackless trolley town"
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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