[PRCo] Re: San Diego Trolleys

[mtoytrain at bellsouth.net]

Young Mother arrested today as she walked her young son in front of the Red Trolleys in San Diego and then pushed him down trying to kill him, but the alert  "TROLLEY CONDUCTOR" stopped the car just in time and the Mother was arrested.

Jerry 
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> From: "Mark McGuire" <macmarka at netzero.net>
> Date: 2005/10/26 Wed PM 07:33:46 EDT
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: new PCC?
> 
>   You DO get used to it Fred. I drive a US Mail vehicle with the
> steering wheel on the right side. Not like driving in some countries
> where steering wheel is on right and drive on left side of road. 
> My steering wheel is on the right and I drive on the right. 
>   I'll never forget my first day training in a postal vehicle. Had to
> navigate through cones on both sides at a steady speed. I knocked
> just about every cone on the left side over. Now, after 18 years I don't even think about it. 
> 
>                     Mark
> 
> P.S.-  We have pot lid mirrors on the fronts of our vehicles. Lets
> you see directly in front. Have them on back too and it helps
> tremendously when backing, although we're supposed to avoid backing
> unless absolutely necessary. 
> 
> -- Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net> wrote:
> Interesting comment Bill.   You cannot see a small child in down in  
> front of a PCC.   Inching one into a carbarn, if you've never done it  
> before, is also problematic;  because of your seated position, the  
> anticlimber of the car ahead of you disappears from view when you are  
> several feet away from it.   Not the same with a Philly 80-hundred,  
> the Birney, or a New Orleans 800 because you can lean out the front  
> window, with one hand on the controller, the other on the brake  
> valve, and see that you have 1/2 inch to go.    But then you have  
> less visibility from the cab of a Peterbilt!   And can you imagine  
> running a steam locomotive or a GP7, long hood forward, down a city  
> street?
> 
> This fits in the category of you get use to it, just like you get  
> used to architecture in a foreign country after you've been there for  
> months on end.   Now that I think about it, I remember the first time  
> I had to close up a PCC against another car in a car house.   Now I  
> just do it instinctively.   But that five year old could still sneak  
> in the blind spot.
> 
> And that is one reason why we had HB Life Guards under the front of  
> PCC cars.   And now that government runs the cars and we have law  
> prohibiting collecting losses from government, what does it matter?
> 
> F W Cynic Schneider III
> 
> 
> On Oct 26, 2005, at 3:27 PM, Bill Robb wrote:
> 
> > I've recently heard remarks attributed to Brookville
> > representatives (at the APTA/IPTE conference) that the
> > PCC car design would never meet modern motor vehicle
> > safety standards.  The issue is mainly with front end
> > visability.
> >
> > This maybe shouldn't be such a surprise as the designs
> > originated in the 30's and 40's, but when you can find
> > on the streets everyday people assume things are
> > possible.
> >
> > Here's an example:
> >
> > "bad news part two. No they can never make any new PCC
> > cars, in fact no one can make any new PCC cars to the
> > traditional design. apparently there are safety rules
> > now that require an operator to be able to see much
> > closer to the front of the vehicle at a lower height
> > (child crossing in front of car) that the traditional
> > design could never meet. to make it work would require
> > lowering the winshields and putting the operator
> > higher and closer to the glass. This would totally
> > change the design of the front end. rebuilding cars is
> > grandfathered but building new would require the
> > entire front end to be redesigned among other things."
> >
> > The bad news part one was that the SEPTA PCCs were in
> > worse shake than Brookvile anticipated and they made
> > less money than expected.
> >
> > "and yes Brookville considers the cars PCC cars
> > because of using PCC patents, most notably the kingpin
> > design."
> >
> > Another comment:
> >
> > "Interestingly the Birney body style was easy to make
> > compliant."
> >
> > Any comments?
> >
> > Bill Robb
> >
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