[PRCo] Re: Pittsburgh Railways maps

[Bill Robb]

Thanks Fred, Bob and Edward for all the information.

Yes, this is the map with the 1700 PCC and the GM
diesel on the cover. I checked, 63 Corey Avenue isn't
on the map, neither is 12 Evergreen. But it does have
the 206/216 Manchester Evergreen feeder bus so that
narrows it down more.

Bill Robb

--- Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net> wrote:

> Pittsburgh Railways was not given to wasting their
> breath telling you  
> where their trolleys and buses ran.  If you lived
> there you knew.     
> I remember one map in the 1940s and another in the
> 1950s.  If you are  
> talking about one with a 1700 PCC and a GM diesel
> bus on the cover,  
> it was probably issued about 1952 - 53  and they
> were still being  
> handed out in until stocks were depleted.  I know
> they were still in  
> stock in July 1958.   I organized a fantrip in 1958
> and we gave them  
> out to all the participants.   I think I recall
> that, at one point,  
> they might have inserted a scrap of paper altering
> the fares.
> 
> It would take me more time to find a copy in this
> "dump" than it  
> would just to offer you meaningful generalizations. 
> The diesel buses  
> were acquired to replace the Millvale and Etna cars
> on Labor Day  
> 1952.  So you know it was after that.   I'm pretty
> sure that the  
> interurbans are not on that guide, so that moves it
> to after August  
> 29, 1953.   And that juncture, the logical point
> would have been to  
> withhold release until after the last shuttle /
> transfer routes were  
> abandoned ... the 12 Evergeen car (lower north side
> via East Street)  
> was replaced by the Manchester - Evergreen bus (it
> didn't go in East  
> Street but over the top of the hill), and that
> happened in December  
> 1953.
> 
> Your guess about the initiation of a 20 cent fare is
> as good as any.   
> If 63 Corey Avenue in Braddock shows as a rail
> route, it quit the  
> same day as the Washington interurban:  August 29,
> 1953.   Of   
> course, you didn't mention Washington and I don't
> remember that it  
> was on the map.  I thought the map came after that.
> 
> fws
> 
> On Sep 14, 2005, at 5:45 PM, Bill Robb wrote:
> 
> > I was given a Pittsburgh Railways Transit guide by
> a
> > friend on Monday night.  There is no noticeable
> date
> > on the map.
> >
> > I've been able to narrow it down to between
> 12/27/53
> > and 1/1/56 by the 20 cent trolley and feeder bus
> fare
> > and the 25 cent cash or 5 ticket for $1.15 through
> bus
> > fare.  Using the March-April 1975 Motor Coach Age
> > article on Pittsburgh Railways I can narrow it
> down
> > further to after 6/7/53 when the P&LE Transfer
> went
> > bus.
> >
> > Is there any hidden indication of the date this
> map
> > was issued?  I see a code at the bottom of the
> front
> > cover: 10316-26X.
> >
> > Bill Robb
> >
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