[PRCo] Re: Donora and the PCC

mtoytrain at bellsouth.net mtoytrain at bellsouth.net
Tue Sep 27 07:35:38 EDT 2005


Gentlemen

Donora and a PCC     I am sorry for bringing up the subject and am appreciative of all the 
comments and investigation.    I know what I know and besides 53 years have passed and
my mind hasn't. yet!  (I think!)     Well it has produced a lot of activity on line and I have enjoyed
reading all of your comments.  Thank you gentlemen.

Jerry M
> 
> From: Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net>
> Date: 2005/09/26 Mon PM 08:18:24 EDT
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Donora and  the PCC
> 
> I THINK JIM IS ON TO SOMETHING HERE.   I DON'T SEE THAT YOU COULD GET  
> BACK ON SCHEDULE BY GOING TO DONORA INSTEAD OF TURNING AT CHARLEROI  
> CAR HOUSE.     I THINK IT WOULD BE A LOT FASTER TO JUST RUN IT OVER  
> THE MOUNTAIN COMPARED TO RUNNING THE STREETS IN DONORA.   IT'S KID OF  
> TOUGH WITH A 30 MINUTE HEADWAY AND SINGLE-END CARS TO GET ANYTHING  
> BACK ON SCHEDULE EXCEPT BY THE SIMPLE EXPEDIENT OF DROPPING A TRIP OR  
> TWO.   BUT LETS GET AWAY FROM JIM'S INITIAL HYPOTHESIS AND FOLLOW THE  
> THREAD A LITTLE FARTHER.....
> 
>   LET'S ASSUME THAT WE HAVE A DISABLED OR DERAILED CAR SOMEWHERE  
> BETWEEN NORTH CHARLEROI AND BLACK DIAMOND AND YOU WANT TO PROVIDE AS  
> MUCH SERVICE AS POSSIBLE ON THE LINE UNTIL YOU CAN GET THE BLOCKADE  
> OPEN.  AH, RUN THE NORTH END TO DONORA ... THAT PROVIDES SERVICE FROM  
> PITTSBURGH THROUGH THE FULL LENGTH OF MONONGAHELA, AND RUN THE OTHER  
> END FROM ROSCOE TO CHARLEROI CAR HOUSE.    NOW IF WE ONLY HAD ROUTE  
> CARDS THAT LATE, THEN WE WOULD KNOW.  BUT THE RAILWAYS COMPANY  
> DECIDED IN THE LABOR SHORTAGES OF WORLD WAR TWO THAT RECORDING ALL  
> THAT KIND OF TRIVIA WAS A WASTE OF STAFF.   NOW THAT I WOULD BELIEVE  
> HAPPENED SOME TIME IN THE FOUR YEARS OF PCC OPERATION.
> 
> PROBLEM ... YOU STILL NEED TO SEND AN EXTRA MAN TO DONORA TO HELP WYE  
> A CAR, WHICH IS A GOOD REASON FOR NOT SENDING A FANTRIP DOWN THERE IN  
> THE FIRST PLACE.
> 
> On Sep 26, 2005, at 5:59 PM, James B. Holland wrote:
> 
> > mtoytrain at bellsouth.net wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Jim
> >>
> >> I am very appreciative of your investigating the facts concerning a
> >> PCC making a trip to my old hometown of Donora. I only wish I had my
> >> "Brownie" box camera and was able to take a picture. I have always  
> >> had
> >> an infatuation with Street Cars from the earliest age, sitting in
> >> First thru Sixth grades at the Castner School on Mcken Avenue between
> >> 10th and 9th Streets, many a day I would get reprimanded for looking
> >> out the windown when I heard a Jones Low Floor pass by, and yes the
> >> familiarity of the old yellow (orange) cars was imprinted on my mind,
> >> but I also remember that beautiful day that I could not believe my
> >> eyes and there was a PCC in Donora, now I can remember that there was
> >> a significant diference between the Jones Low Floor and a PCC car.
> >>
> >> Anyway, thanks for your investigation and the facts you emailed will
> >> be saved with my PRCo data. And yes it was in 1952, I was in Mrs
> >> Browns Englsh class on the 2nd floor! Thanks again.
> >>
> >> Jerry M
> >>
> >> PS - I remember saying is it only me that cares about that car being
> >> in Donora?
> >>
> >
> >
> > Were you in Mrs. Brown's English class before or after summer  --  or
> > were you at summer school?
> >
> > Like Ed says, it would seem that If this were a railfan excursion that
> > we would have All Kinds Of Photos.
> >
> > *-A-*  possibility is that a regular Revenue car was sent down  
> > there to
> > turn around to get back on schedule, because the line was blocked,  
> > etc.,
> > etc., etc.       Do you remember What Kind Of PCC It Was?
> >
> > And, No, I don't think it is you that only cares.       I asked the  
> > same
> > question onlist some time this year and was totally shot down on the
> > idea but also have to wonder why the railfan community hasn't been  
> > aware
> > of any PCCs being down on Donora.       Sopme of the  *-Members-*  of
> > PERC, PRMA, PTM  were // are  PRCo // ({[pat]})  employees.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jim__Holland
> >
> >
> > I__Like__Ike.......And__PCCs!!
> >
> > down with pantographs ---- UP___WITH___TROLLEYPOLES!!!!!!!
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 




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