[PRCo] Re: Pittsburgh 1200 models

[Holland Electric Rwy. Op. H.E.R.O. -- Import SPTC 1.48 Models // James B. Holland]

One would assume brakes were good upon purchase  --  experience with 10s 
and 11s was probably quite positive but experience with 12s may have 
taught otherwise.       At delivery, 1200 series PCCs wheel tread brake 
shoes were   <Spring__Applied>   Air--Released    ----    opposite of 
the Standard Of The Day!       To release the brakes for a Push / Tow 
job it was necessary to climb partway under the car    ----    that also 
helped to ban the cars on lines with steeper grades.

Additionally,  we have been told that  PRCo  preferred to send PCCs out 
to Lines With Discretionary Riders First to attract them    ----    
others didn't have a choice and had to ride.       Seems strange that 85 
Bedford would be a Discretionary Rider Line!       And, of course, that 
was my observation when I wrote you about the 1941 John Prophet 16mm   
<color>   movies put to video in   <PCC__Trilogy>    ----    I was able 
to identify not a few of these lines from the video, including the 85 
specifically.

How do we account for 12s on Liberty between 6th and 5th heading 
opposite the flow of line 85  --  these were in the video?



Fred Schneider wrote:
.

> For those buying a 1200 Pittsburgh Model from Jim Holland, here is a
> carbarn assignment list for
> that series circa January 1941:
>
> 1200-1211 and 1233-1240 Tunnel
> 38 MT LEBANON
> +39 BROOKLINE
> +40 MT WASHINGTON
> +42 DORMONT
> +46 BROWNSVILLE
>
> 1212-1220 Herron Hill
> +85 BEDFORD
> (22 did not get PCCs until 1400s)
>
> 1221-1232 and 1245-1274 Homewood
> +60 E. LBTY - 62ND ST,
> +87 ARDMORE
> 88 FRANKSTOWN
>
> 1241-1244 and 1279-1299 Ingram
> +26 WEST PARK
> +31 CRAFTON-INGRAM
> +34 SHERIDAN-INGRAM
>
> 1275-1278 Keating
> +8 PERRYSVILLE
> 10 WEST VIEW
> 15 BELLEVUE-WEST VIEW
>
> The plus (+) sign is indicative of a route added when the 1200s were 
> delivered to the carbarn.     The other routes listed already had PCCs 
> as a result of the deliveries of 1000 or 1100 series cars.     The 
> names shown are not necessarily indicative of the exact spelling of 
> the front and side destination signs at the time the 1200s were first 
> placed in service but it is a reasonably complete list of how to have 
> your 1200 painted by Leonid.
>
> There are, in my mind, two important anomalies here. One is that 
> everyone has told me the brakes on the 1200s were horrible yet one of 
> the worst grades on the system was one block on route 85 Bedford and 
> yet that line got PCC cars of the 1200 series in 1940.      
> Interestingly, I also saw No. 1600 running on that line in 1953 and it 
> was a drum brake car. The other curious situation is that Ingram was, 
> in 1940, a mixed GE and Westinghouse barn.




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