[PRCo] Re: PCCs___vs___lrvs

Fred Schneider fwschneider at comcast.net
Sun Apr 9 17:07:00 EDT 2006


If the monomotor truck is a problem, then why does it work so well  
all over Europe?

It wasn't the problem.   You have to remember, Jim, that press  
releases are documents issued to cover up something that a  
corporation or agency doesn't want you to know and divert attention  
to something else.    A monomotor truck requires that all wheels be  
the same diameter or it will put undue wear on the gear boxes.   When  
PAT failed to properly maintain the trucks, i.e. by changing one  
wheel set and leaving the other worn, then their answer was to blame  
the manufacturer for his 'poorly designed' truck that worked  
perfectly well where it was maintained according to specifications.

On Apr 8, 2006, at 8:12 PM, Holland Electric Rwy. Op. H.E.R.O. --  
Import SPTC 1.48 Models // James B. Holland wrote:

> Fred Schneider wrote:
> .
>
>> Ah, but the Siemens cars were also not revolutionary.
>
> .
> Agreed!       This is the thrust of my comments below  --  modern lrvs
> just an extension of  Already  Existing  Transit  Technology    ----
> so why the arduous month long // xxxx mile Non Revenue operations for
> Each And Every Vehicle purchased???????       My original  
> observation is
> that  Off  The  Shelf  Siemens  equipment goes through shake down
> testing before entering service like  <--Specially  Built  Bredas-- 
> >  in
> San Francisco.
> .
> .
>
>> We were trying to blend German technology in the 1980s with American
>> track maintenance and the two simply did not mate well.       How  
>> many
>> years did it take to rebuild the Overbrook line to European track
>> standards, or at least close enough thereto that they could run  
>> modern
>> cars?
>
> .
> Track Not Necessarily The Problem.       Monomotor design of Siemens
> truck seems to be the culprit as detailed in press releases and  
> Trolley
> Fare articles    ----    Boeing used mono and weren't any problems
> specifically attributed to that.       Siemens used elsewhere in   
> U.S.A.
> // Canada without  <--problem.-->
> .
> <--Problem-->   Is,  However,   that Siemens equipment has tremendous
> affinity for  <--Hunting-->  as it heads down the tracks  --  lateral
> oscillations that increases with speed.       Have experienced this on
> virtually every Siemens system I have ridden as has local Rail
> Aficionado Harry Peat who has ridden far more than myself    ----
> other equipment, such as UTDC in San Jose and Bombardier in  
> Portland, do
> not exhibit such problems.       Indeed, even the New Low-Floor  
> Siemens
> cars in Portland, OR, exhibited this potential  When  Brand  New!
> Haven't been back to ride since then.
> .
> Disc brakes on Siemens have a tendency to chatter during application
> making for a rough stop.
> .
> Siemens // German // European equipment  Not  Without  Problems  of
> their own!
> .
> .
>
>>> James B. Holland wrote:
>>> .
>>>
>>>> Just An Observation!!!
>>>>
>>>> Isn't there a lengthy shake down for Siemens car in
>>>> Pittsburgh?        Siemens not uncommon in USA.
>>>
>
>
>
>
> Jim__Holland
>
>
> I__Like__Ike.......And__PCCs!!
>
> down with pantographs ---- UP___WITH___TROLLEYPOLES!!!!!!!
>
>




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