[PRCo] Re: 1.>--PCCs___vs___lrvs__--__2.>--PCC___Trucks

Fred Schneider fwschneider at comcast.net
Tue Apr 18 13:47:41 EDT 2006


You are correct, Boris.   Sy was the brains behind it and Harre was  
the editor.   I think they got together because Harre had connections  
with the man who was the publisher of the Pacific Railway Journal  
even before it was sold to Interurbans Press.   But I'm rather vague  
on that, and I cannot go back and reconfirm what Harre told me  
because he died after heart surgery almost twenty years ago.   Sy was  
the one who personally knew a lot of the TRC people including Thomas  
Conway.   It has been a long time too since I last saw him; I imagine  
if he is still living he would be pushing 90 today.     Last thing I  
heard, Sy was very sick and infirm ... implication was that he was  
not aging gracefully.

On Apr 18, 2006, at 1:15 PM, Boris Cefer wrote:

> But Seymour Kashin, who eventually did not put the book together  
> (it was
> Demoro who did it), has a large collection which probably contains  
> many
> valuable items and info. But I have no way to ask him what he has.
>
> B
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Holland Electric Rwy. Op. H.E.R.O. -- Import SPTC 1.48  
> Models //
> James B. Holland" <PRCoPCC at P-R-Co.com>
> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 10:38 PM
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: 1.>--PCCs___vs___lrvs__--__2.>--PCC___Trucks
>
>
>> Because  1225  is not part of the official record.       We can only
>> speculate how 1225 got the trucks.
>>
>> This PCC book looks like a carbon copy of the other books    ----
>> enough so that it appears as though the other books were used as The
>> Source.       The writing style is distinctly different and the
>> arrangement is poor.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Boris Cefer wrote:.
>> .
>>
>>> My copy of the book reads the same. But where did they find this  
>>> info? It
> does not mention car 1225 which did have the first pair of  
> experimental
> trucks too.
>>>
>>> B
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> From pg.077 of DeMoro's PCC book:::::::
>>>>
>>>>             """The experimental trucks were delivered to Pittsburgh
> Railways in 1940 and 1941 and placed under cars 1230 and  
> 1278.       The
> trucks were tested all during WW2 but wartime traffic needs  
> prevented the
> level of experimentation desired by TRC.       Late in 1945, the  
> trucks were
> removed from the two cars so they could be reconstructed as  
> prototypes of
> the proposed new B-3 truck, which would be built exclusively in North
> America by SLCCo.       One of the prototypes was installed under  
> car 1613
> for test operation on Pittsburgh's long interurban lines to  
> Washington and
> Charleroi.       The second prototype was put under the 1614 in May  
> 1946.
> Ten additional B-3 truck sets were acquired to convert other PCC  
> cars to
> interurban service.       In addition, a B-2 truck modified by  
> Clark was
> tested and placed under the 1644.       This truck was designated  
> B-2a and
> was intended as a compromise suitable for both street and open track
> running.       Clark later off!
>>  ered this truck as the B-2b."""
>>>>
>>>> From pg.165-166 ibid:::::::
>>>>
>>>>             """The B-3 truck was developed starting in 1939 to  
>>>> solve
> some of the problems experienced with the B-2 truck on open  
> track.       As
> long as it was on rigid track in city streets, the B-2 performed  
> very well.
> But it tended to nose on open track, a problem that was especially  
> critical
> on systems like Pittsburgh, which served as the field laboratory,  
> and had
> extensive mileage off city streets."""
>>>>
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