[PRCo] Re: Heaters

[hrbran99 at adelphia.net]

Exactly my sentiments on this post also, Jim. I would not want to have to wear an overcoat because the engineer who disigned the car or train 'assumed' all operators have their overcoats on while operating. What happened to "thermostats"??? Install one of those babies and everyone can be happy!
Herb Brannon


---- Jim Holland <prcopcc at p-r-co.com> wrote: 
> TEP wrote:
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> > .......but the reality is that in cold weather passengers dress for it 
> > -- as should the operator. 
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> Yes, Ops dress for cold weather but Do Not wear their overcoat while 
> operating  --  sweater maybe, but not a jacket  --  too encumbering 
> otherwise.       Even here in SF we have cab heat for op platform 
> separate from car heater on all our equipment.
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> > The car takes a while to warm up and could be on the chilly side 
> > between pulling out of the yard and getting warmed up by rush hour 
> > passengers, it will be fine thereafter.
> 
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> Not  At  All  Unlike the PCC  --  in South Hills, cars dragged the 
> brakes down through the tunnel in the PM rush to warm them up and soon 
> after they filled up with passengers.       A little different in the AM 
> rush.
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> > There is nothing worse than being stuck in a sealed car with failed 
> > air conditioning, shades of the 1700s that I frequently rode in the 
> > Pittsburgh summers of the 1960s.
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> Can only remember one time when cold on a PCC in Pittsburgh in the 
> winter, and that was the Drake trip with Charlie that I already 
> related.       Can only remember one time in the summer when the heat 
> got to me on a 17  --  was on my way to Grandparents house in Homewood 
> in the latter 1950s, on the 88 outbound, someone had a portable radio 
> and if I heard it Once I heard it Once Million Times  --  """50-million 
> times a day, at home at work and on the way - everyone Loves Coca-Cola, 
> everyone loves Coke!"""       I was getting light headed from the heat.
> .
> The 17s were My Favorite Car - on the Interurbans All The Time because 
> that is what they ran - can only remember less than half dozen trips on 
> a 16 on the Interurban, and most of them in  ({[pat]})  days.       If I 
> knew a 17 was on some line I would sometimes wait for that car, esp. in 
> the early days when the B2B trucks were intact on and functioning 
> properly on City Cars  --  Absolutely  Heavenly  ride on the B2B.
> .
> Summer and Winter I would deliver the Sunday morning SnoozePapers As 
> Early As Possible and then run out and get my Sunday Pass  --  I was 
> usually on an inbound 42 by 6-AM and caught some of the pullouts for the 
> Interurban - I would return home only for dinner and would then go back 
> out until 10-PM in the school year and Much Later in the summer.       
> Always enjoyed the ride and was very rarely uncomfortable because of 
> heat or cold.
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> Not So San Francisco!       ALWAYS    cold on the PCCs here.       Baby 
> Tens only had op heater and the draft over rode that.       Taped 
> cardboard together which would fold nicely so I could spread it around 
> the feet to my right  --  that helped.       11s not much better, even 
> though they were ex-SLPS.       Heaters disconnected or needed reverser 
> key to activate.       One group of Proposed PCCs for either MSR or Muni 
> had    SCREENS    for the front windshield,   NOT   glass    ----    
> that would be   Kewl   Literally at 40-mph down  OR  Up through the Twin 
> Peaks Tunnel   (which was shut down from 08-AM til 10-PM Wednesday 
> because of a derailment!!)
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> Jim___Holland
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