[PRCo] Re: Why a Wye?

John Swindler j_swindler at hotmail.com
Mon Dec 25 09:24:57 EST 2006



I have a memory of 37 car using loop at Castle Shannon, then backing onto 
38A loop to return inbound via 42/38.  Trouble is, memory not good enough to 
recall if happened on more then one occasion, or if this was just a 
recollection from a fantrip.  Dont' think it was a fantrip, but maybe.....  
Could this have been a way to reduce number of rush hour trippers using 
passing sidings on Overbrook??  Help????

John





>From: Jim Holland <prcopcc at p-r-co.com>
>Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>Subject: [PRCo] Re: Why a Wye?
>Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 23:55:30 -0800
>
>Jim Holland wrote:
>.
>
> > Freight!       Wye is a turnaround but in case of Donora it was for
> > freight.
> > .
> > Space limitations  --  couldn't make a loop in location of 42-Dormont 
>wye.
>
>.
>Motormen backed up line of sight with people walking the tracks
>behind    ----  don't  'know'  of any conflicts here  --  with
>people.       Sometimes motormen didn't pull up far enough to clear the
>overhead directional frog and the pole backed up on the wire it entered
>the wye which means it eventually wound up stuck in the spans!!!
>.
>.
>
> > 87-Ardmore had a wye briefly but upgraded to loop in different location.
> > .
> > Riverview combination of wye // loop ---- wye portion of loop added in
> > 1922 so northbound Interurbans to Pgh. shared southbound Charleroi /
> > Donora trackage near loop until last leg built to form wye.
>
>.
>.
>Wyes in Canonsburg and downtown Washington allowed Interurban TrolleyCar
>to layover off-street    ----    space saving as well as available real
>estate!!!
>.
>.
>The wye on the 2-Etna at Dewey just short of the end of the line is a
>stumper  --  maybe it was originally the end of the line and the single
>track to the loop was added when it became available  O-R  more likely
>when the Butler interurban ceased operation!
>.
>Castle Shannon loop around the admin Building was not built until
>1948    ----    before that it had been an elongated wye which was
>originally used as PullOut routing for either inbound or outbound
>Interurbans when CS was an operating Car House  --  it then doubled as a
>turning point for cars and was used as such after the Car House was
>'closed.'
>.
>There was also a wye on the 94 line that was like Canonsburg  --  back
>into it and pull out forward.
>.
>Abandoned intersections sometimes kept a wye as short turn  --  we had
>discussion on this some time back  --  one on North Side and one near
>Homewood.
>.
>Had to check my map for some  --  this covers  'most'  wyes.
>.
>.
>.
>JJ
>.
>.
>.
>
> > mtoytrain at bellsouth.net wrote:
> > .
> >
> >> Why a wye? Yes one in Donora, if Jones low Floor double ended cars
> >> were used, why the wye, a freight station? a turn around? Other areas
> >> of Pittsburgh Railways had wyes so why the wyes?
> >>
> >>
> >> Merry Christmas to all !
> >> Jerry Matsick
> >
>
>
>

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