[PRCo] Re: Track Replacement and Road Repair

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Mon Jan 9 09:18:13 EST 2006


ED

You mean I missed some hallowed ground:    "Washington Park"  where is that located??,  yes 
Mark and I even cleaned off a stretch of the Donora Wye to take a better picture.    Looking forward
to a soon return to the land of the vanished trolleys!

Jerry Matsick
> 
> From: "Edward H. Lybarger" <trams at adelphia.net>
> Date: 2006/01/09 Mon AM 09:12:30 EST
> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Track Replacement and Road Repair
> 
> PRCo's objective was to the job as cheaply as possible.  PA Highways Dept.,
> on the other hand, wanted it done right with the track removed and the
> surface restored.  The result was a hodgepodge of methodology, depending on
> the location and how vocal the local politicians were.  Typically, PRCo just
> cut off the rail head somewhere near the top of the web, then threw asphalt
> in the remaining groove.  Amazingly, this satisfied PDH and the
> municipalities.  Naturally, it all came out the next winter!  It took until
> 1957 to finish the job.  All the understreet track structure was just left
> in place until the road was rebuilt, which usually happened when the ties
> rotted beyond redemption.  So there's very little actual track left in
> Washington County.  Washington Park comes to mind, as does the wye in
> Donora.
> 
> Ed
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of
> mtoytrain at bellsouth.net
> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 8:56 AM
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org; pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Track Replacement and Road Repair
> 
> 
> I remember and it must have been around 1948/49, that the entire stretch of
> tracks in Donora was
> repaired, they came in and dug out all of the brick, concrete and or black
> top and worked on the track and replaced it all and caused alot of mess on
> McKean Avenue.   I don't remember for some reason and that seems to be a
> topic of NON discussion of who cares when they took the tracks up?  My
> question is in fact does alot of the PRCo railway track remain paved over?
> 
> Jerry Matsick
> >
> > From: "James B. Holland" <PRCoPCC at P-R-Co.com>
> > Date: 2006/01/09 Mon AM 04:57:39 EST
> > To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> > Subject: [PRCo] Re: PITTSBURGH'S___1950___TRACK___PROGRAM
> >
> > Fred Schneider wrote:
> > .
> >
> > > ... In the 1940s there was a lot of track replacement going on.
> >
> > .
> > In threads in the past we have observed that the Trustees during the
> > Bankruptcy were quite good with PRCo  --  most if not all the PCCs were
> > purchased under them and Not A Little Track Work was done.       It's a
> > shame that all those Underliers ere bleeding so much cash from the
> > company  --  wonder how it would have differed if PRCo had a better cash
> > flow?
> >
> > > In the early 1950s there was a lot of work at car stops and special
> > > work ... probably were cars were derailing.
> >
> > .
> > Significant wear at car stops as braking exerts downward pressure with
> > more rail wear.       Even on open T-Rail, stops that were used
> > frequently often had the total railhead surface worn smooth whereas
> > where cars are rolling there was only a thin line of steel visible on
> > the railhead.       With PCC braking and the possible use of track
> > brakes, rail at stops could wear even more.
> > .
> >
> > > In the late 1950s, there was a lot of work tearing up track.
> >
> > .
> > Wasn't it the late 1950s or early 1960s when not a small amount of track
> > was replaced by PRCo on either Forbes or Fifth  --  has been mentioned
> > here before.     Source may have been Trolley Fare  --  can't remember
> > offhand.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Jim__Holland
> >
> >
> > I__Like__Ike.......And__PCCs!!
> >
> > down with pantographs ---- UP___WITH___TROLLEYPOLES!!!!!!!
> >
> >
> >
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