[PRCo] Re: Track Replacement and Road Repair

[mtoytrain at bellsouth.net]

Thanks Ed - will have to discuss with Mark, we saw so much back in June, but I don't remember and that will have to force a visit back up to PTM!.    My one desire at PTM  is to ride 3756 and or 3711 at PTM before I go ride the great trolley in the sky!

Jerry M
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> From: "Edward H. Lybarger" <trams at adelphia.net>
> Date: 2006/01/09 Mon AM 09:28:31 EST
> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Track Replacement and Road Repair
> 
> Off the Jefferson & Maiden line near the east end.  Dunn Avenue off Maiden
> Street.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of
> mtoytrain at bellsouth.net
> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 9:18 AM
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Track Replacement and Road Repair
> 
> 
> ED
> 
> You mean I missed some hallowed ground:    "Washington Park"  where is that
> located??,  yes
> Mark and I even cleaned off a stretch of the Donora Wye to take a better
> picture.    Looking forward
> to a soon return to the land of the vanished trolleys!
> 
> Jerry Matsick
> >
> > From: "Edward H. Lybarger" <trams at adelphia.net>
> > Date: 2006/01/09 Mon AM 09:12:30 EST
> > To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> > Subject: [PRCo] Re: Track Replacement and Road Repair
> >
> > PRCo's objective was to the job as cheaply as possible.  PA Highways
> Dept.,
> > on the other hand, wanted it done right with the track removed and the
> > surface restored.  The result was a hodgepodge of methodology, depending
> on
> > the location and how vocal the local politicians were.  Typically, PRCo
> just
> > cut off the rail head somewhere near the top of the web, then threw
> asphalt
> > in the remaining groove.  Amazingly, this satisfied PDH and the
> > municipalities.  Naturally, it all came out the next winter!  It took
> until
> > 1957 to finish the job.  All the understreet track structure was just left
> > in place until the road was rebuilt, which usually happened when the ties
> > rotted beyond redemption.  So there's very little actual track left in
> > Washington County.  Washington Park comes to mind, as does the wye in
> > Donora.
> >
> > Ed
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> > [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of
> > mtoytrain at bellsouth.net
> > Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 8:56 AM
> > To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org; pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> > Subject: [PRCo] Re: Track Replacement and Road Repair
> >
> >
> > I remember and it must have been around 1948/49, that the entire stretch
> of
> > tracks in Donora was
> > repaired, they came in and dug out all of the brick, concrete and or black
> > top and worked on the track and replaced it all and caused alot of mess on
> > McKean Avenue.   I don't remember for some reason and that seems to be a
> > topic of NON discussion of who cares when they took the tracks up?  My
> > question is in fact does alot of the PRCo railway track remain paved over?
> >
> > Jerry Matsick
> > >
> > > From: "James B. Holland" <PRCoPCC at P-R-Co.com>
> > > Date: 2006/01/09 Mon AM 04:57:39 EST
> > > To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> > > Subject: [PRCo] Re: PITTSBURGH'S___1950___TRACK___PROGRAM
> > >
> > > Fred Schneider wrote:
> > > .
> > >
> > > > ... In the 1940s there was a lot of track replacement going on.
> > >
> > > .
> > > In threads in the past we have observed that the Trustees during the
> > > Bankruptcy were quite good with PRCo  --  most if not all the PCCs were
> > > purchased under them and Not A Little Track Work was done.       It's a
> > > shame that all those Underliers ere bleeding so much cash from the
> > > company  --  wonder how it would have differed if PRCo had a better cash
> > > flow?
> > >
> > > > In the early 1950s there was a lot of work at car stops and special
> > > > work ... probably were cars were derailing.
> > >
> > > .
> > > Significant wear at car stops as braking exerts downward pressure with
> > > more rail wear.       Even on open T-Rail, stops that were used
> > > frequently often had the total railhead surface worn smooth whereas
> > > where cars are rolling there was only a thin line of steel visible on
> > > the railhead.       With PCC braking and the possible use of track
> > > brakes, rail at stops could wear even more.
> > > .
> > >
> > > > In the late 1950s, there was a lot of work tearing up track.
> > >
> > > .
> > > Wasn't it the late 1950s or early 1960s when not a small amount of track
> > > was replaced by PRCo on either Forbes or Fifth  --  has been mentioned
> > > here before.     Source may have been Trolley Fare  --  can't remember
> > > offhand.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Jim__Holland
> > >
> > >
> > > I__Like__Ike.......And__PCCs!!
> > >
> > > down with pantographs ---- UP___WITH___TROLLEYPOLES!!!!!!!
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