[PRCo] Re: PRCo___1700s-__-Delivery

[James B. Holland]

This Is True  --  Did you notice below that it said:

"""December, 1948/January, 1949"""

Dave gets his figgers mixed up  --  Often!!!


Jim



Mark McGuire wrote:

>  The caption for the photo of 1700 on the Crosstown line should
>perhaps read "early 1949", not early 1947. ;>)
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>-- "Holland Electric Rwy. Op. H.E.R.O. - SPTC / James B.Holland" 
><PRCoPCC at P-R-Co.com> wrote:
>I am going to make an   *--Assumed___Observation--*   of  YES!  --  
>based on the following:
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>01.>--The article states that both Westinghouse and GE had big ad 
>spreads in the Pgh. snoozepapers prior to debut of the cars.
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>02.>--The article Refers to the whole 100 car lot.
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>03.>--The Only Distinction made about this 100 car lot of 1700s is 
>that 
>25 of the cars are built for Interurban service.
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>Therefore, unless information to the contrary is presented, it seems 
>reasonable to assert that  1700--1799  benefit from #3 listed below 
>and 
>requoted here:::::::
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>"""3:___A change has been made in the motor control which permits 
>carrying the acceleration rate to a higher speed which, in effect, 
>means 
>that the cars can operate up grades faster. This is tied in with a 
>Speed 
>Governing Relay, which will not permit the cars to exceed a 
>predetermined maximum speed."""
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>Jim___Holland
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>Boris Cefer wrote:
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>>This is the high field shunting I mentioned some time back. This 
>>article confirms that it provided faster acceleration at higher 
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>speeds 
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>>and faster up grade operation.
>>Now, were all 1700s equipped this way? (GE cars?)
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>>Boris
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>>----- Original Message -----
>>From:  James B. Holland" <PRCoPCC at P-R-Co.com>
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>>>The following is gleaned from *--Mass___Transportation--* 
>>>January_1949, pgs.48-51:::
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>>>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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>>>"""Last month Pittsburgh, perhaps the strongest of the street 
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>car's 
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>>>few remaining strongholds, took delivery on the first of 100 new 
>>>streamliners. These 100 new cars will bring the company's 
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>streamline 
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>>>fleet to 666 cars, with nearly as many old timers of various 
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>vintages 
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>>>swelling the total of cars covering the hilly steel city's more 
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>than 
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>>>500 miles of track....
>>>"""
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>>>"""Addition of the new cars received heavy play in the Pittsburgh 
>>>newspapers (possibly influenced by some big ad spreads from such 
>>>suppliers as Westinghouse, GE, St.Louis Car Company [SLCCo], 
>>>U.S.Steel and Clark Equipment) and Tom Fitzgerald and company 
>>>doubtless hoped that the pleasant publicity would lessen the 
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>public's 
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>>>antagonism to the company's current request for another fare 
>>>increase..."""
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>>>"""Improved control circuits make the operation of the cars 
>>>smoother.   These improvements include:"""
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>>>"""3:___A change has been made in the motor control which permits 
>>>carrying the acceleration rate to a higher speed which, in effect, 
>>>means that the cars can operate up grades faster. This is tied in 
>>>with a Speed Governing Relay, which will not permit the cars to 
>>>exceed a predetermined maximum speed."""
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