[PRCo] Re: Rt. 19 circa 1939

[Fred Schneider]

God.   Born in 1962.   He's just a kid.   I was taking pictures of  
trolleys in Kodachrome at Fort Couch Road when he was in nappies.     
<BFG>

You'll get the last laugh Mark.  They'll plant me first.



On Apr 11, 2007, at 12:27 AM, Mark McGuire wrote:

> Would that be the Joseph Horne Co. at South Hills Village, or was it
> located elsewhere before SHV opened?  I was born in 1962 so so SHV is
> pretty much etched into my memory. Forgive my memory lapse, but was
> SHV built in 1969? Senior moments at the age of 45(almost).
>
> -- "Edward H. Lybarger" <trams2 at comcast.net> wrote:
> Cheeseman may have been a little more than halfway out in terms of
> mileage,
> but about in the middle timewise.  We shopped for groceries in
> Canonsburg
> and went to Pittsburgh for almost everything else.  That was natural
> since
> they had come from there and were familiar with the stores and banks.
> Joseph Horne Company later opened a branch in Mt. Lebanon that we
> patronized
> once there was the second auto.
>
> We didn't have a super market (or dial telephones) until 1958.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of
> Mark
> McGuire
> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 5:36 PM
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Rt. 19 circa 1939
>
>
>  That was an interesting tidbit about why your parents moved out
> there Ed. Saved me another question. Thanks for sharing.
>   Would it be safe to say Cheesemans stop was approximately the half
> way point between Pittsburgh and Washington? Your mom could have had
> her choice of where to go shopping, but I would guess the big city
> won more times than not.
>
> -- "Edward H. Lybarger" <trams2 at comcast.net> wrote:
> The road you see going north at Thompsonville is the old highway.  The
> entire stretch between Clifton (McMurray/McLaughlin Run Roads
> intersection)
> and Donaldson's Crossroads was built in 1940.  The new highway,
> coupled with
> the nearness of the interurban, was the reason my parents moved out
> here in
> 1941.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of
> Mark
> McGuire
> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 11:02 PM
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Rt. 19 circa 1939
>
>
>  Yes, Ed replied to my e-mail and gave me the obvious answer of rt.
> 19 not being there. It does end at Thompsonville and this is yet
> another place where I was having problems tracing the Penn Pilot 1938-
> 39 aerial views. I found my way around though. Please answer the
> second part of my previous question if you would as to between which
> stops was Paris Lake located. Mucho gracias!
>
>                           Mark
>
> -- Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net> wrote:
> Yes it was changed in 1940.   The old road north of West McMurray
> Road (Donaldson's Crossroads) curves to the west past Ed's home,
> then
> over the hill and comes back out on the present route 19 just south
> of the Eat 'n Park.  The Then I think it crossed what is now the
> present roue 19 and crossed the trolley line at Brown's stop (you're
> now probably 3/4 mile north of Cheeseman (I think)) and then had to
> cross it again before Thompsonville and swing down past the old
> school.   Without even looking at the map, I suspect that the old
> road may not have even gone north from Thompsonville ... you may
> have
> had to have driven along the creek under the viaduct, and then
> turned
> left to come back to the carline.   Not sure without looking at a
> map.   It may have also been on the  east side of the car line at
> County Line siding.
>
> Remember, Mark, this was not the main road to Washington.   The
> principal highway before 1940, i.e. route 19, came out through
> Carnegie and Bridgeville, Morganza, Canonsburg, Houston, and then up
> over the hill.   Even today it is called Pike Street in deference to
> it once being the turnpike or toll road to Pittsburgh.
>
> fws
>
>    Ed is or was out for dinner.   He may be back later.
> \
> On Apr 5, 2007, at 8:41 PM, Mark McGuire wrote:
>
>>  I sent Ed a personal e-mail asking about a portion of the
> Washington
>> interurban that is near his residence. I am trying to follow the
> line
>> from Washington to Drake using the Penn Pilot website. I am totally
>> confused after Cheesemans heading north. Was rt. 19 realigned post
>> 1939? It is very hard to find the line pertaining to rt. 19. The
> road
>> looks as if it was broken up at points and this is indeed very
>> confusing to me. I followed the line from Washington up to
> Cheesemans
>> and this is where I can't find rt. 19. Looks as if rt. 19 in 1939
> was
>> what is now a side street in Ed's neighborhood. Rt. 19 being
>> realigned would explain a great deal to me.
>>   While I'm here, where exactly was Paris Lake? Was this a stop on
>> the line? Between which of these stops was it(heading north to
> south):
>>
>> Clifton
>> Fifeshire
>> Valley Farm
>> Cremona
>> Orchard
>> Montclair
>>
>> Any and all help much appreciated!
>>
>>                               Mark
>>
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