[PRCo] Re: Conductor Question

John Swindler j_swindler at hotmail.com
Wed Apr 11 20:02:36 EDT 2007


It would occur at safety island on Forbes St. in front of Craft Ave. 
carhouse for the 64/67/68.  For the Fifth Ave. routes, the street relief was 
at Fifth and Halket.

I would not be surprised if Brighton Rd street relief didn't occur at North 
and Federal.

For South Hills, most occurred at Tunnel, of course.  If it was an outbound 
relief, the car might pull around the administration building.  But that 
only happened occasionally.  For rt. 50, it was at P&LE station.  I don't 
have any recollection how 53 was handled.

There is a vague recollection that the Second Ave. routes did pull-outs and 
pull-ins when shifted to Tunnel in early 60s.  But this is a Sunday/Holiday 
recollection.  Maybe there were street reliefs during weekdays????????

And in Chicago in late 60s, North Park garage drivers used the Foster St. 
bus to make street reliefs on Sheridan, Broadway, Clark, Western, etc.  The 
drivers run included report time, and travel time on a specific rt. 92 bus 
to our street relief point.  And if we left the bus at a lot south of the 
loop after the morning rush, we were paid travel time back to North Park 
garage.  Everything started and ended at the garage.  Hmmmm.  Now that I 
think about it, not sure if a lunch period was allowed for at 
Broadway/Foster, etc, rather then travel time back to garage.  So maybe not 
every piece of work involved travel time to garage.

John



>From: Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net>
>Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>Subject: [PRCo] Re: Conductor Question Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 16:32:17 
>-0400
>
>Generally at barns but it could be any convenient location that you
>could get an operator to.   You were trying to maximize the work you
>got out of a person in eight hours.   One man might start out of barn
>and his relief might take over somewhere else.   Depends on the system.
>
>On Apr 11, 2007, at 3:55 PM, Joshua Dunfield wrote:
>
> >
> > I don't know, but I'm forwarding this to the "PRCo" list, whose
> > members no
> > doubt have the answer.
> >
> > Best,
> > -j.
> >
> > KJMDZME at aol.com wrote:
> >> I had a conversation with my Dad and Husband about Streetcar
> >> Conductors in
> >> the past.  I remember riding in street cars and having a "changing
> >> of the
> >> guard"  in other words a driver would get on and replace the other
> >> driver  who
> >> would get off.  Bus drivers may have done this too in the past.
> >> I  could be
> >> mixing the two up in my memory.  I was fairly young when the
> >> switch from
> >> streetcars to buses happened.
> >>
> >> I pretty much road the Brighton Rd bus and streetcar before that
> >> and am not
> >> sure if they switched out on the route or downtown.  I am thinking
> >> it was
> >> downtown.  I even remember them carrying their little satchels and
> >> maybe  some
> >> even had seat cushions.
> >>
> >> My Dad doesn't seem to agree with me.  I went online to research
> >> a  little
> >> and came upon your site about the Loops and so am asking you if
> >> you know  about
> >> how drivers switched off and on back then.  My Dad seems to think
> >> they did it
> >> back at the car barn.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Karen Z
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ************************************** See what's free at http://
> >> www.aol.com.
> >
>
>

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