[PRCo] Re: OT Boston

[Ken & Tracie]

I remember riding the Kenosha PCCs during the Paul Weyrich fantrip, circa 
1999. The cars had trucks from retired CTA "Spam Cans" (6000s.)
The wheels were awful. The late Joe McCarthy explained to us that 
replacement wheels were in the works.

As I recall, the 6000s at speed were fun to ride as long as the trainset or 
car you were in had good wheels. I can imagine the pounding truck components 
took at 40 mph with all four wheels having multiple flat spots.

K.

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From: "Russell E Jackson" <russell.jackson at stvinc.com>
To: "Boris Cefer" <westinghouse at iol.cz>
Cc: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 10:39 AM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: OT Boston


> On what?  On CTA 6000s, at least 500,000 miles.  (they pay no attention to
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> Is there any approximate estimate of a wheel (tire member) life?
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> From: "Russell E Jackson" <russell.jackson at stvinc.com>
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>> Boris - Fred is basically correct as to the legal issues, although you
>> will
>> find opening windows on a number of other cars, particularly in San
>> Francisco.  We know that FWS is always on a soap box.  But I think it is
>> still sensible to air condition the cars.  You cannot have them be the
>> only
>> not air conditioned part of the fleet.  It is not a museum.  As for the
>> wheels, I seem to remember that the issue was bad ground shunts, with the
>> possibility of not shunting the signal circuits.  (Another badly managed
>> outfit in Philly had many cars operating with broken shunts.)   It is
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>> that there were several instances of this, which brought the Public
>> Utilities Commission into the picture.  In a typical Boston stupid
>> decision, they got rid of the resilient wheels.  They disappeared on the
>> CTA because they were using only the D-1 wheel, and cracks were occurring
>> in the welded back plates, and the manufacturer had left the business and
>> had no interest in improving the design.  I cannot say I know why a
>> different wheel design such as the SAB was not considered, except that
>> back
>> then they were not in the US market at all.  So it was easy (and cheaper)
>> to change to the solid wheels.  The wheel life in those light cars was so
>> long that they lasted from one truck overhaul to the next, so there was
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>> great change in maintenance costs.   Kashin says that one Brooklyn car
> was
>> tested with the SAB wheels, but there is no picture or document proof
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>> I know of.  Possibly at SAB in the archives.  Or in a Kashin box
>> somewhere.
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>> Russ Jackson
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